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    fcwilt @A Former User
    last edited by 27 Jun 2022, 20:14

    @mac said in I could use some help:

    @fcwilt yes, that is what’s happening. The bed did touch the endstop and then back off; that’s an improvement.

    Here's the problem.

    When you tried jogging Y by -10 it went toward the front? Correct?

    But the homing moves were supposed to be:

    • a minus move
    • a plus move
    • a minus move

    Based on the jogging test it should have moved:

    • toward the front
    • toward the back
    • toward the front

    I think there are two problems:

    • the normal/reverse setting for the Y stepper is wrong (see M569 P0...)
    • the steps per mm are wrong - too few (see M92)

    I would like you to:

    • change the M569 setting from whatever it is to the other setting
    • try the home Y test and observe the movements
    • try the jogging test and verify the correct directions
    • if the directions are correct find some means to measure a move of, say, 100mm and see if a 100mm jog moves that distance.

    Thanks.

    Frederick

    Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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      alankilian @fcwilt
      last edited by 27 Jun 2022, 20:20

      @fcwilt said in I could use some help:

      But the homing moves were supposed to be:

      a minus move
      a plus move
      a minus move

      Based on the jogging test it should have moved:

      toward the front
      toward the back
      toward the front

      Since it's a bed-slinger in Y, isn't a PLUS move going to move the bed towards the FRONT? (Move the head towards the +y part of the bed.)

      I may be confused.

      SeemeCNC Rostock Max V3 converted to V3.2 with a Duet2 Ethernet Firmware 3.2 and SE300

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        fcwilt @alankilian
        last edited by 27 Jun 2022, 20:25

        @alankilian said in I could use some help:

        @fcwilt said in I could use some help:

        But the homing moves were supposed to be:

        a minus move
        a plus move
        a minus move

        Based on the jogging test it should have moved:

        toward the front
        toward the back
        toward the front

        Since it's a bed-slinger in Y, isn't a PLUS move going to move the bed towards the FRONT? (Move the head towards the +y part of the bed.)

        I may be confused.

        Correct (about the move, not about being confused). 😉

        But according to mac a minus jogging move was moving the beds towards the front. I can only go by what he posts.

        Frederick

        Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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          A Former User @fcwilt
          last edited by 27 Jun 2022, 20:47

          @fcwilt Y homes like it should. None of the + moves work. When I -10 it moves FORWARDS.

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            A Former User @A Former User
            last edited by 27 Jun 2022, 20:52

            @mac

            ; Configuration file for Duet 3 Mini 5+ (firmware version 3.3)
            ; executed by the firmware on start-up
            ;
            ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.3.10 on Mon Jun 27 2022 12:50:38 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
            ; General preferences
            G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
            M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
            M550 P"Frankenstein's Cinderella" ; set printer name
            ; Network
            M552 S1 ; enable network
            M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
            M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
            M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet
            ; Drives
            M569 P0.0 S1 ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
            M569 P0.1 S1 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
            M569 P0.2 S1 ; physical drive 0.2 goes forwards
            M569 P0.3 S1 ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
            M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.2 E0.3 ; set drive mapping
            M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
            M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z4000.00 E420.00 ; set steps per mm
            M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z60.00 E120.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
            M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z600.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
            M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z200.00 E250.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
            M906 X600 Y600 Z600 E600 ; set motor currents (mA)
            M84 S0 ; Disable motor idle current reduction
            ; Axis Limits
            M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
            M208 X220 Y220 Z240 S0 ; set axis maxima
            ; Endstops
            M574 X2 S1 P"!^io5.in" ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on X via pin !^io5.in
            M574 Y2 S1 P"!^io6.in" ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on Y via pin !^io6.in
            ; Z-Probe
            M950 S0 C"io3.out" ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
            M558 P9 C"io3.in" H5 F120 T3600 ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
            G31 P500 X15.875 Y0.625 Z2.5 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
            M557 X5:190 Y5:215 S10 ; define mesh grid
            ; Heaters
            M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4092 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
            M950 H0 C"out0" T0 ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
            M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
            M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
            M143 H0 S33 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 33C
            M308 S1 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4092 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin temp1
            M950 H1 C"out1" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 1
            M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
            M143 H1 S100 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 100C
            ; Fans
            M950 F0 C"out3" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin out3 and set its frequency
            M106 P0 S0 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
            M950 F1 C"out4" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin out4 and set its frequency
            M106 P1 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
            ; Tools
            M563 P0 S"optional" D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
            G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
            G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
            ; Custom settings are not defined
            ; Miscellaneous
            M501 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
            M911 S21 R23 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss
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              fcwilt @A Former User
              last edited by 27 Jun 2022, 20:53

              @mac said in I could use some help:

              @fcwilt Y homes like it should. None of the + moves work. When I -10 it moves FORWARDS.

              I understand about the jogging move.

              And since it is wrong you need to change normal to reverse or vice-versa in the M569 for the Y stepper.

              That should get jogging going in the right direction.

              IF it does try homing Y

              Frederick

              Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                A Former User @A Former User
                last edited by 27 Jun 2022, 20:58

                @mac

                ; homex.g
                ; called to home the X axis
                ;
                ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.3.10 on Mon Jun 27 2022 12:50:38 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
                G91
                G1 H1 X-230 F3600
                G1 X15
                G1 H1 X-10 F360
                G90
                G1 X110 F3600 ; this just moves X to the centerline of the bed - doesn't matter where - it can be any place at all that suits you.
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                  A Former User @A Former User
                  last edited by 27 Jun 2022, 21:00

                  @mac

                  ; homey.g
                  ; called to home the Y axis
                  ;
                  ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.3.10 on Mon Jun 27 2022 12:50:38 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
                  G91
                  G1 H1 Y-230 F3600
                  G1 Y15
                  G1 H1 Y-10 F360
                  G90
                  G1 Y110 F3600 ; this just moves Y to the centerline of the bed - doesn't matter where - it can be any place at all that suits you.
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                    A Former User @A Former User
                    last edited by 27 Jun 2022, 21:01

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                      A Former User @A Former User
                      last edited by 27 Jun 2022, 21:01

                      @mac

                      ; homeall.g
                      ; called to home all axes
                      ;
                      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.3.10 on Mon Jun 27 2022 12:50:38 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
                      M98 P"homeZ.g"
                      M98 P"homeX.g"
                      M98 P"homeY.g"
                      ; Uncomment the following lines to lift Z after probing
                      ;G91 ; relative positioning
                      ;G1 Z5 F60 ; lift Z relative to current position
                      ;G90 ; absolute positioning
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                        A Former User @A Former User
                        last edited by 27 Jun 2022, 21:03

                        @mac That's where the code for my Duet3D Mini 5+ is today. Thank you to @droftarts , @fcwilt , and @alankilian for all their valuable contributions to this effort.

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                          A Former User @A Former User
                          last edited by 27 Jun 2022, 21:07

                          @mac

                          6/27/2022, 2:06:04 PM G28 Z
                          Error: Failed to enable endstops
                          6/27/2022, 2:05:32 PM Warning: Driver 0.0 warning: phase B may be disconnected
                          6/27/2022, 2:05:32 PM G28 X
                          Warning: Driver 0.0 warning: phase B may be disconnected
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                            fcwilt @A Former User
                            last edited by fcwilt 27 Jun 2022, 21:13

                            @mac said in I could use some help:

                            @mac

                            6/27/2022, 2:06:04 PM G28 Z
                            Error: Failed to enable endstops
                            6/27/2022, 2:05:32 PM Warning: Driver 0.0 warning: phase B may be disconnected
                            6/27/2022, 2:05:32 PM G28 X
                            Warning: Driver 0.0 warning: phase B may be disconnected

                            Well the warning about driver 0.0 would explain the noise and lack of proper movement.

                            Frederick

                            Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                              fcwilt @A Former User
                              last edited by 27 Jun 2022, 21:14

                              @mac said in I could use some help:

                              @mac

                              ; homez.g
                              ; called to home the Z axis
                              ;
                              ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.3.10 on Mon Jun 27 2022 12:50:38 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
                              G91 ; relative positioning
                              G1 H2 Z5 F3600 ; lift Z relative to current position
                              G1 H1 Z-245 F1800 ; move Z down until the endstop is triggered
                              G92 Z0 ; set Z position to axis minimum (you may want to adjust this)
                              ; Uncomment the following lines to lift Z after probing
                              ;G91 ; relative positioning
                              ;G1 Z5 F60 ; lift Z relative to current position
                              ;G90 ; absolute positioning

                              I don't get it, mac.

                              I give you code to try and you end up with something rather different.

                              I really do know what I am doing.

                              Frederick

                              Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                A Former User @fcwilt
                                last edited by 27 Jun 2022, 22:26

                                @fcwilt I don't know how that happened, honestly. I absolutely don't remember seeing that in your code, or copying anything that looks like into my code.

                                Frankenstein's Cinderella, that's all I can suggest.

                                This extraordinarily long thread has the code you suggested in it. It was the first code you provided to me. I know where it is. So I will go and get it, and put it in the homez.g again.

                                Now we will see what happens.

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                                  A Former User @A Former User
                                  last edited by 27 Jun 2022, 22:33

                                  @fcwilt @droftarts @alankilian

                                  G91 ; relative movements
                                  G1 H1 Z-250 F3600 ; fast move toward Z endstop
                                  G1 Z10 ; backup off a bit
                                  G1 H1 Z-15 F360 ; slow move toward Z endstop
                                  G90 ; absolute movements
                                  G1 Z10 F3600 ; move to 10mm off the bed to allow X and Y movements

                                  This is the correct homez.g @fcwilt provided. I have no idea where that other code came from.

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                                    fcwilt @A Former User
                                    last edited by 27 Jun 2022, 22:34

                                    @mac said in I could use some help:

                                    @fcwilt @droftarts @alankilian

                                    G91 ; relative movements
                                    G1 H1 Z-250 F3600 ; fast move toward Z endstop
                                    G1 Z10 ; backup off a bit
                                    G1 H1 Z-15 F360 ; slow move toward Z endstop
                                    G90 ; absolute movements
                                    G1 Z10 F3600 ; move to 10mm off the bed to allow X and Y movements

                                    This is the correct homez.g @fcwilt provided. I have no idea where that other code came from.

                                    You been drinking? 😉

                                    Anyway, have you changed the rotation of the Y stepper so the jogging operations move it in the right direction?

                                    I'm still anxious to verify that the S setting is the problem there.

                                    Frederick

                                    Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                      A Former User @fcwilt
                                      last edited by 27 Jun 2022, 22:44

                                      @fcwilt I'm going to work on that now.

                                      Mac

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                                        A Former User @A Former User
                                        last edited by A Former User 27 Jun 2022, 22:57

                                        @droftarts @fcwilt @alankilian

                                        In the config.g now:

                                        M569 P0.0 S1 ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
                                        M569 P0.1 S1 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
                                        M569 P0.2 S1 ; physical drive 0.2 goes forwards
                                        M569 P0.3 S1 ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards

                                        Our change:

                                        M569 P0.0 S1 ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
                                        M569 P0.1 S0 ; physical drive 0.1 goes backwards
                                        M569 P0.2 S1 ; physical drive 0.2 goes forwards
                                        M569 P0.3 S1 ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
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                                          A Former User @A Former User
                                          last edited by 27 Jun 2022, 23:18

                                          @alankilian @droftarts @fcwilt

                                          On the X-axis, the printhead's chattering up a storm. When I 119 it, this is what I get:

                                          6/27/2022, 4:18:07 PM M119
                                          Endstops - X: not stopped, Y: not stopped, Z: no endstop, Z probe: not stopped
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