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    • fcwiltundefined
      fcwilt @bubblevisor
      last edited by fcwilt

      @bubblevisor said in Printer Farm WiFi Struggle:

      @fcwilt I have duet 2 wifi and Duet 3 mini 5+. Most have external antennas. All have the same problem.

      My signals are -51, -57, -48.

      Do you have a WiFi "analyzer" on your phone by chance?

      In America there are only three WiFi channels that do not overlap 1, 6 and 11.

      When two nearby APs are using the same channel that is co-channel interference.

      When two nearby APs are using the different channels but they overlap that is adjacent-channel interference.

      And while it may seem odd adjacent-channel interference is the worst of the two.

      You want to use channels 1, 6 and 11. If you have more than three APs re-use the channels for APs that are the farthest apart.

      So use your phones WiFi analyzer (that assumes you have one installed) and see what your WiFi environment is like.

      Frederick

      Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator @bubblevisor
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        @bubblevisor said in Printer Farm WiFi Struggle:

        Often it just sits with a broken connection until i physically run a SETNETWORK (M552 and M587) wifi reset macro on the Paneldue.

        I wonder if there is something in the object model that could be checked in daemon.g and if the connection is lost, run the setnetwork macro again to give it a kick. I know it's just a bandaid, but in a noisy wifi environment that may be as good as it gets. The signal strength you're reporting is good, so it definitely seems like interference.

        What kind of router/access point is it by the way?

        Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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        • oliofundefined
          oliof
          last edited by

          in addition to washer already was said: what wifi router do you use?

          it may be beneficial to invest here to get better performance and stability.

          depending on where you live recommendations for better kit could be made

          <>RatRig V-Minion Fly Super5Pro RRF<> V-Core 3.1 IDEX k*****r <> RatRig V-Minion SKR 2 Marlin<>

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          • jens55undefined
            jens55
            last edited by jens55

            I run Ubiquity gear and while I no longer experience connection problems with Duet wifi controllers, I end up having to reload the cameras that watch my prints every few minutes. The cameras are Raspberry pi zero w's running raspberry cameras on MotionEye. I have tried all manner of things without success.
            I used to have intermittent connectivity on a Duet2 wifi but at one point that issue just went away <shrug>
            I have an access point right in the printer room and still have to constantly reload the camera streams.

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            • Nightowlundefined
              Nightowl
              last edited by

              There does seem to be an argument for a wired network here. The interference between each receiver and transmitter could be affecting the signal strength.

              I appreciate that's not what you want to hear, as this could involve changing all your boards.

              Could you use a couple of WiFi extenders and rename the extended WiFi signal, and connect one or two printers to each one? I use a TP-Link powerline adapter and WiFi extender in my shed as the router is located in the house (the shed is on the same mains supply), to supply my hard-wired laptop and WiFi dehumidifier, and I can split the WiFi and rename it, so the principle would be the same. You may also think about a mesh WiFi system which (I understand) has nodes you can manage, but I'm not too familiar with them.

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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators @bubblevisor
                last edited by dc42

                @bubblevisor some suggestions:

                • Use a smartphone wifi scanner app to see if any other wifi networks are in range and to see which channels are free.
                • Try setting your router to a different WiFi channel. It has been found that some channels work better than others on Duets.
                • Try a different router/access point, especially if the one you are using is old.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                • bubblevisorundefined
                  bubblevisor
                  last edited by

                  Thanks for all the great advice. I will put it into action and report back.

                  As an aside is there a way to have boards setup so there is both options of wifi AND ethernet?

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                  • gloomyandyundefined
                    gloomyandy @bubblevisor
                    last edited by

                    @bubblevisor I think probably the only options for doing this would be to either run th board in SBC mode using a rPi that supports both WiFi and wired networking, or have a board that supports wired networking and get some sort of WiFi to ethernet adaptor, but with that I'm not sure that you would be able to use both at the same time...

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                    • Nightowlundefined
                      Nightowl @gloomyandy
                      last edited by Nightowl

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                      • bubblevisorundefined
                        bubblevisor
                        last edited by

                        Just to report back regarding my attempts to solve my wifi woes. I have done 2 things to help improve stability:

                        1. Using a wifi analyser to check traffic and then moving the wifi channel to a less congested frequency/channel. - This helped a bit but not much.
                        2. Forcing my laptop to use the same 2.4GHz band as the printers. - This helped a lot. The laptop tends to have a preference by default for a 5GHz band. I suspect most computers will do this. This solved the frequent problem I had when the laptop could not connect to the printers even though the printers had a sound network connection themselves. Changing to the same band as the printers helped no end.
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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators @bubblevisor
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                          @bubblevisor thanks for the tip!

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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