1XD Closed Loop Servo Setup

code7

@marcossf Thanks for the detailed recommendation. I'll check it out.

dc42

@code7 please share your config.g file.

Which axis do you want to drive with this servo motor?

code7

@dc42 The closed loop servo is on drive 122.0 on the 1XD Exp Board. I'm able to turn the motor briefly until I receive the "Motor speed out of control" Alarm from the ELD2 servo driver.

This is how I have it wired:

ELD2 Manual:
http://leadshineusa.com/UploadFile/Down/ELD2-RS70-- User Manual_2021_Ver1.09.pdf

Config:

G4 S2                                              ; wait a moment for the CAN expansion boards to start

; Drives
M569 P0.0 S0                                 ; physical drive 0.0 goes backwards
M569 P0.1 S0                                 ; physical drive 0.1 goes backwards
M569 P0.2 S1                                 ; physical drive 0.2 goes forwards
M569 P122.0 S0                               ; physical drive 121.0 goes backwards
M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.2 E122.0                   ; set drive mapping
M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E1 I1                      ; configure microstepping with interpolation
M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z400.00 E100.00             ; set steps per mm
M566 X1200.00 Y1200.00 Z24.00 E300.00        ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
M203 X9000.00 Y9000.00 Z360.00 E6000.00      ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z100.00 E5000.00        ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E1200 I50                ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
M84 S30                                      ; Set idle timeout

; Axis Limits
M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1                             ; set axis minima
M208 X235 Y235 Z260 S0                       ; set axis maxima

; Endstops
M574 X1 S1 P"io1.in"                         ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for low end on X via pin io1.in
M574 Y2 S1 P"io2.in"                         ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on Y via pin io2.in
M574 Z1 S1 P"io3.in"                         ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for low end on Z via pin io3.in

; Z-Probe
M558 P0 H5 F120 T6000                        ; disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
M557 X15:215 Y15:195 S20                     ; define mesh grid

; Heaters
M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4092 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
M950 H0 C"out0" T0                           ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
M307 H0 B1 S1.00                             ; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
M140 H0                                      ; map heated bed to heater 0
M143 H0 S150                                 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 150C
M308 S1 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4092 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin temp1
M950 H1 C"out1" T1                           ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 1
M307 H1 B0 S1.00                             ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
M143 H1 S275                                 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 275C

; Fans
M950 F0 C"!out3" Q500                        ; create fan 0 on pin !out3 and set its frequency
M106 P0 S0 H-1                               ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
M950 F1 C"!out4" Q500                        ; create fan 1 on pin !out4 and set its frequency
M106 P1 S1 H1 T45                            ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
M950 F2 C"out5" Q500                        ; create fan 2 on pin !out5 and set its frequency
M106 P2 S1 H-1                               ; set fan 2 value. Thermostatic control is turned off

; Tools
M563 P0 S”Servo Extruder” D0 F0                 ; define tool 0
G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                              ; set tool 0 axis offsets
G10 P0 R0 S0                                 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
M563 P1 S”Tool1” F-1                        ; define tool 1
G10 P1 X0 Y0 Z0                              ; set tool 1 axis offsets
G10 P1 R0 S0                                 ; set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C

; Miscellaneous
T0                                           ; select first tool

jay_s_uk

@code7 you don't appear to have any driver timing on your M569. External drivers usually can't keep up the same way internal ones can. Try something like T5:5:10:10 as a first shout

ShaunCro

@code7

You need to choose whether you going to run high or low on the step/dir.

So typically you daisy chain the positive from the 5V+ and the have the Negative as the pulse input, so only they get connected to the corresponding pins. ENA is typically left unconnected from the documentation I have read on my drivers.

I assume your driver also has a 25\26 pin D-Sub interface, if so, you only need to connect up the corresponding wires and leave the rest, as they aren't used in our instance. But, you may need to grab the software from leadshine to change a few parameters and ensure they are funning step/dir and not RS485 for communication.

ShaunCro

@shauncro Nope, if I look at my user manual, I need a bit more. Fiddling and will post a bit later what I happen upon. But still getting everything up and running.

code7

@shauncro Leadshine contacted me and recommended the Differential Connection option wired as follows:

I tried this but it tripped the "Motor speed out of control" alarm right away even before sending a G1 command to turn the servo.

@jay_s_uk I added T5:5:10:10 to the config but I am still receiving the alarm.

jay_s_uk

@code7 can you share the full datasheet for the driver. Thanks

code7

@jay_s_uk Here is the full data sheet for the Leadshine ELD2 Driver:

http://leadshineusa.com/UploadFile/Down/ELD2-RS70-- User Manual_2021_Ver1.09.pdf

alankilian

@code7 said in 1XD Closed Loop Servo Setup:

it tripped the "Motor speed out of control" alarm right away even before sending a G1 command to turn the servo.

Wow, this is a pretty sophisticated servo controller. I'd like to know more about it in case I want to use one like it in the future. Can you share some more information about your setup?

What motor do you have connected?
What encoder do you have connected?
Are you configuring it using the RS232 or RS485 serial connection?
Did Leadshine supply you configuration software for a Windows machine?

There seem to be a lot of things to get right before it's going to move at all, and then tuning the servo controller can get complex, but I think if you go step-by-step you'll get it running.

I've designed servo controllers in the (long ago) past and have used many different types, so I'll try to help as much as I can.

alankilian

@code7 said in 1XD Closed Loop Servo Setup:

I tried this but it tripped the "Motor speed out of control" alarm right away even before sending a G1 command to turn the servo.

Page 67 of your manual says this may be caused by:

UVW connection error
Encoder error

Do you know that you have the motor U, V and W wires connected to the correct place on the driver?

Do you know that the encoder is correctly connected to the driver?

Sometimes, the motor has a connector that's perfect and things can't get out-of-order, but I don't know what you've got, so I' apologize if this is a dumb thing for me to ask you.

code7

@alankilian Thanks for looking into this. The motor is a Leadshine
ELDM4010V24HL-B5

Here is the response from Leadshine: "Motor speed out of control " this Alarm is from 1XD controller.
Please check controller electronic/PPR setting ,make it correspond to servo driver and machine transmission devices.

I downloaded the Leadshine software to configure it but am waiting for an RS232 cable to test it out.

I'm using the ELD2 Servo controller.

alankilian

@code7

Here's what I would do: (Step 1 of many)

Disconnect the 1XD and connect the motor to the servo controller.

Do not connect anything else to the servo.
Apply power to the servo drive.
What do you get for blinking lights or codes on the servo controller?

Send us a photo of the setup.

ShaunCro

@code7

Hey Code,

I have MOVEMENT! But only on the older drivers which are the ACS806

Here's my config

I changed my 1XD to address 20 so configure for your address

; Drives
M569 P20.0 S1 R0 T5:5:5:5                    ; physical drive 20.0 goes forwards
M569 P0.0 S1                                       ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
M569 P0.1 S1                                       ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
M569 P0.3 S1                                       ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
M584 X20.0 Y0.0 Z0.1 E0.3                          ; set drive mapping
M350 X16 I0                                       ; configure microstepping without interpolation
M350 Y16 Z16 E16 I1                                ; configure microstepping with interpolation
M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z400.00 E420.00                ; set steps per mm
M566 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z60.00 E120.00              ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
M203 X120000.00 Y120000.00 Z180.00 E1200.00        ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
M201 X12000.00 Y12000.00 Z20.00 E250.00            ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
M906 Y300 Z800 E800 I30                       ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
M84 S30                                            ; Set idle timeout

; Axis Limits
M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1                                   ; set axis minima
M208 X450 Y450 Z450 S0                             ; set axis maxima

; Endstops
M950 J4 C"!^20.io0.in" ; create input pin number 4 on 1XD board at CAN address 20 for servo alarm. The alarm is active low so invert the input and enable the pullup to prevent spurious alarms caused by noise
M950 P5 C"20.io0.out" ; create a GPIO pin number 5 on 1XD board at CAN address 20 for alarm reset
M574 X1 J4 S2                                   ; configure sensorless endstop for low end on X
M574 Y1 S3                                       ; configure sensorless endstop for low end on Y
M574 Z1 S2                                       ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z
; Custom settings are not defined
M581 P4 S0 T3 R1 	 ; invoke trigger 3 when an active-to-inactive edge is detected on input 4 and a file is being printed from SD card

This is still testing, so treat as test code. I'm still discovering, I do have to edit the Gear Numerator and Gear Denominator on the driver it self, which means you need your cable, I also had to set a few things in the driver for it to work, not sure what yours will be but here is a pic of what I set to get a few bits of rotation. I need to figure out what the gear denominator and numerator role play in this, also, I need to play with the timing in the config, but hey, it moves with no errors. So I'm chuffed for now.

Wiring for this driver is very different than the eld5 I have, but, I needed the alarm+ and Alarm- connected to IO0.0 out with inverted and pulled up,

Then all the dir+/- Pul+/- and Ena+/- to their corresponding pins, and my settings in the software for the driver are this

I must say that the driver software for the ACS series of drivers is pure K@K. Nothing under the motor parameters saves. And It seems no one in leadshine believes in firmware updates

Will post as I figure out stuff hopefully to help.

ShaunCro

@shauncro I see my enable motor in the pic is active high, this should be set to low.

But what I find weird, is I only get movement for a 1/4 of the motor, so 50mm to -250mm if I disable motors and turn it to the next pole, I can move with in that pole, but the numbers are different. 50-350 etc currently have my Gear numerator set 1:1 with the denominator. Motor movement is slow though.

code7

@alankilian Thanks for double checking. Everything is connected properly.

With everything connected or disconnected I am still receiving the blinking green light with no errors. I'm going to try a simpler motor/driver for now and I may come back to the Leadshine system later.

@shauncro Thanks for the details. I tested your config.g and servo driver settings with my Leadshine setup and am not getting any movement. If I come back to this setup and have success I'll let you know.

alankilian

@code7 said in 1XD Closed Loop Servo Setup:

Thanks for double checking. Everything is connected properly.
With everything connected or disconnected I am still receiving the blinking green light with no errors. I'm going to try a simpler motor/driver for now and I may come back to the Leadshine system later

If you want to send one motor driver and one motor to me I'll hook it up and getting working for you and send it back. No charge for postage or anything.

I only have a Duet2, but getting it working on that system will certainly get it working on your system also.

I've done this for other people in the past and have had success.

I'm in Cambridge, MA so you can estimate postage.

Let me know if you want to try this to get you a jumpstart on getting this working.

code7

That's really kind @alankilian. I'll let you know if I decide to try this again.

alankilian

@code7 OK, I've got your system setup on my bench.

I can connect using the Leadshine software on a Windows-10 computer using a USB-to-RS232 and your cable and I can read values from the stepper driver and I can command motion and the motor turns.

I also hooked up a pulse-generator and I can enable the stepper driver and the motor turns when I generate step signals.

So...... I don't have a Duet-3 so I can't hook up the 1XD board you sent, but I'll hook up my Duet2 and see if I can get the motor to move using GCODE from the Duet2.

alankilian

@code7 I now have the Duet controlling the stepper motor through axis U driver 5 step/direction outputs.

I'll go back through this thread and see what I have hooked up differently than you did.

I really just hooked:

Hooked PUL+ to Duet2 Step
Hooked PUL- to Duet2 Ground
Hooked DIR+ to Duet2 Direction
Hooked DIR-- to Duet2 Ground
Hooked ENA to Leadshine ground
Hooked the COM+ to leadshine 24 Volts DC

I'll read some more and get back to you.