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    • axiomundefined
      axiom @infiniteloop
      last edited by

      @infiniteloop Hello, this is the link from the dealer for the heating mats. I have 4 pieces 400x400x24V.

      https://de.aliexpress.com/item/4000577539832.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.58df5c5fjtq3G7&gatewayAdapt=glo2deu

      Today I would then like to connect the mats to the PT100 daugterboards and then connect the outputs in parallel.
      then I want to do the autotune. Is an average value then automatically calculated for the sensors? At least that's how I understood the description.

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      • droftartsundefined
        droftarts administrators @axiom
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        @axiom please post your current config.g. Until we understand if you have PT100 or thermistor, it is difficult to advise you.

        Ian

        Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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        • infiniteloopundefined
          infiniteloop @axiom
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          @axiom Moin,

          Thank you for the link. Unfortunately, it isn’t very descriptive, especially concerning the thermal sensors. As far as I understand it, they provide either a thermistor or a PT100, not both. What you get depends on what you order from them. So the problem remains: we don’t know whether your heaters are equipped with thermistors or PT100 sensors.

          Today I would then like to connect the mats to the PT100 daugterboards and then connect the outputs in parallel. Then I want to do the autotune.

          As long as we are not sure what sensors you got, this is a bad idea. Instead, you can try to configure a single heater with a PT100 daughterboard and see what readings you get at room temperature. Please don’t power the heaters at this stage!

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          • axiomundefined
            axiom @infiniteloop
            last edited by

            @infiniteloop Ok, then I'll wait, but what should I do?

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            • axiomundefined
              axiom @infiniteloop
              last edited by

              @infiniteloop I just got it now...I should just connect a sensor to the daughterboard and see what is displayed?

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              • droftartsundefined
                droftarts administrators @axiom
                last edited by

                @axiom Please post your config.g. It will show what command you are using to get the sensor to show the correct room temperature. This will tell us if it's a thermistor or PT100.

                Ian

                Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                • axiomundefined
                  axiom @droftarts
                  last edited by

                  @droftarts

                  As discussed, I have now connected the bed sensor to a PT100 daughterboard.
                  The console shows 2000 degrees!!!!!

                  Here is the current code:Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 3.3)
                  ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                  ;
                  ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.3.10 on Tue Jul 26 2022 17:05:20 GMT+0200 (Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit)

                  ; General preferences
                  M575 P1 S1 B57600 ; enable support for PanelDue
                  G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
                  M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                  M550 P"Don axoiom" ; set printer name

                  ; Network
                  M552 S1 ; enable network
                  M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
                  M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
                  M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet

                  ; Drives
                  M569 P0 S1 ; physical drive 0 goes forwards
                  M569 P1 S1 ; physical drive 1 goes forwards
                  M569 P2 S1 ; physical drive 2 goes forwards
                  M569 P4 S1 ; physical drive 4 goes forwards
                  M569 P3 S1 ; physical drive 3 goes forwards
                  M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E4:3 ; set drive mapping
                  M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16:16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                  M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z400.00 E420.00:420.00 ; set steps per mm
                  M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z60.00 E120.00:120.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                  M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z180.00 E1200.00:1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                  M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20.00 E250.00:250.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                  M906 X1800 Y1600 Z1600 E1600:1600 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                  M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                  ; Axis Limits
                  M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
                  M208 X500 Y500 Z500 S0 ; set axis maxima

                  ; Endstops
                  M574 X1 S1 P"xstop" ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for low end on X via pin xstop
                  M574 Y1 S1 P"ystop" ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop
                  M574 Z2 S1 P"zstop" ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on Z via pin zstop

                  ; Z-Probe
                  M558 P1 C"zprobe.in" H5 F300 T6000 ; set Z probe type to unmodulated and the dive height + speeds
                  G31 P500 X20 Y20 Z2.5 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                  M557 X15:215 Y15:195 S20 ; define mesh grid

                  ; Heaters
                  M308 S0 P"spi.cs1" Y"rtd-max31865" ; configure sensor 0 as PT100 on pin spi.cs1
                  M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                  M307 H0 B1 S1.00 ; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                  M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
                  M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                  M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
                  M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                  M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
                  M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                  M308 S2 P"e1temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 2 as thermistor on pin e1temp
                  M950 H2 C"e1heat" T2 ; create nozzle heater output on e1heat and map it to sensor 2
                  M307 H2 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
                  M143 H2 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 2 to 280C

                  ; Fans
                  M950 F0 C"fan1" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
                  M106 P0 S1 H0 T45 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                  M950 F1 C"fan0" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
                  M106 P1 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on

                  ; Tools
                  M563 P0 S"Filament" D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
                  G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                  G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                  M563 P1 S"Stuetzkonstruktion" D1 H2 F0 ; define tool 1
                  G10 P1 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 1 axis offsets
                  G10 P1 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                  ; Custom settings are not defined

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                  • infiniteloopundefined
                    infiniteloop @axiom
                    last edited by

                    @axiom said in How can I calibrate the temperature of my bed:

                    I should just connect a sensor to the daughterboard and see what is displayed?

                    Yep. And I see from your config that you've done that. What temperature readings do you now get from the bed heater at room temperature?

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                    • axiomundefined
                      axiom @infiniteloop
                      last edited by

                      @infiniteloop 2000 degrees!!!

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                      • infiniteloopundefined
                        infiniteloop @axiom
                        last edited by

                        @axiom said in How can I calibrate the temperature of my bed:

                        2000 degrees!!!

                        That's far off. I would like to have @droftarts takes a look at this - I don't know what readings the daughterboard should produce if connected to a thermistor instead of a PT100.

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                        • axiomundefined
                          axiom @infiniteloop
                          last edited by

                          @infiniteloop
                          understand, ask him directly or do I need to contact @droftarts?

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                          • droftartsundefined
                            droftarts administrators @axiom
                            last edited by

                            @axiom cooking dinner at the moment! Can you post a picture of how you have wired the bed temp sensor to the daughterboard and Duet?

                            Ian

                            Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                            • infiniteloopundefined
                              infiniteloop @droftarts
                              last edited by

                              @droftarts said in How can I calibrate the temperature of my bed:

                              cooking dinner at the moment!

                              bon appétit!

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                              • axiomundefined
                                axiom @infiniteloop
                                last edited by

                                @infiniteloop daughterboard.jpg matte.jpg

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                                • infiniteloopundefined
                                  infiniteloop @axiom
                                  last edited by

                                  @axiom Thx. @droftarts will have a look at the photos … after dinner.

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                                  • axiomundefined
                                    axiom @infiniteloop
                                    last edited by

                                    @infiniteloop Guten Appetit!

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                                    • dc42undefined
                                      dc42 administrators @axiom
                                      last edited by

                                      @axiom when you measured the resistance of the sensor at 20C using a multimeter, are you sure it read 106 ohms, not 106 kohms? If it's 106 ohms, it's a PT100. If it's 106 kohms, it's a 100K thermistor.

                                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                                      • axiomundefined
                                        axiom @dc42
                                        last edited by

                                        @dc42 You are right, it is 106 kilo ohms and not ohms... sorry for the wrong statement..

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                                        • axiomundefined
                                          axiom @dc42
                                          last edited by

                                          @dc42 wenn i am starting the bed heater it shows "hardware error no sensor" without starting it shows 2000 degrees

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                                          • Phaedruxundefined
                                            Phaedrux Moderator @axiom
                                            last edited by

                                            @axiom said in How can I calibrate the temperature of my bed:

                                            @dc42 You are right, it is 106 kilo ohms and not ohms... sorry for the wrong statement..

                                            So if it's 106 kilo ohms it is a thermistor and should not be connected to the PT100 daughterboard. Connect it to the mainboard instead and change your config.g to use values for a thermistor.

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