CR-10 with DuetWifi - updated with Bondtech exruder (3djake)

Knaudler · 28 Oct 2017, 10:01

Hello

update:
no ~~(original Case)~~

last night my CR-10 gets upgrade to DuetWifi

first the Duet needs FW upgrade…via SD an PC...
(comes with old FW)
then I'm creating the config via reprap online config
https://configurator.reprapfirmware.org/

for Molex Connectors you need a Tool for Crimping
looking amazon (DE): IZOKEE Crimpzange
works good for this cheap tool

the Duet fits into the original case of CR-10
without Display - mounting duet board with ca. 3cm distance from case, for air flow
using the 2 Case original case fans parallel
(using PWM Fan Port 3 - needs other PWM Frequency ~ 30Hz on 40% - so duet remains below 30 degrees)

for Bed using original Mosfet from CR-10

raise up Voltage on Powersource to 14.4V - works
(more Power )

first Test:
I'm using demo config files for prusa from sd,
then overwritten with data from config tool (zip)

I need to switch direktion for x, y Motor
Endstops working

in Bed conf there was a failure with Z define 2mm to low - correctet to 0
(I'm still work without autolevelling on CR1-10)

using 16 microstepps with interpolation for x,y,z
using 32 microstepps with interpolation for E

Test…with 100mm/sec - silence !
really silence - great

now i can hear the bad chinese ball bearings !
there is one bad bearing on Y

the fans are the only loud sound
very smooth printing

and testet...150% works...200% works
I let the printer print at 300mm/sec ! - with PLA
(needs 230 degrees and 150% extrusion - not nice, but works with original Hotend)
but up to 200mm/sec would be ok for Vase Mode

my CR-10 mods:

Bed isolation - silcawool (stoutwind) 300x300
(sealed with a lot of Kapton)
more Voltage - 14.4V
Fan Mod thingiverse : www.thingiverse.com/thing:2274499
(bridging without any problems)
Case fans, Hotend fan and Parts cooling fan on PWM Ports
(Hotend Fan working over 45 degrees)
BuildTak direct on ALU-heatbed (glass plate is too heavy for high speed)
extra Car Fuses for Board (10A) and Bed (30A)
CR-10 case and frame grounded

files, config will be submitted later….

Greetings from Hamburg

Ingo

update 25.7.18

Knaudler · 28 Oct 2017, 10:01

here my config

config.g

; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 1.17 to 1.19)
; executed by the firmware on start-up
;
; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Sat Oct 28 2017 00:02:03 GMT+0200 (Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit)

; General preferences
M111 S0 ; Debugging off
G21 ; Work in millimetres
G90 ; Send absolute coordinates…
M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
M555 P2 ; Set firmware compatibility to look like Marlin
M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; Set axis minima
M208 X300 Y300 Z400 S0 ; Set axis maxima

; Endstops
M574 X1 Y1 Z1 S1 ; Define active high microswitches
M558 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 H5 F120 T12000 ; Set Z probe type to switch, the axes for which it is used and the probe + travel speeds
G31 P600 X0 Y0 Z2.5 ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
M557 X20:280 Y20:280 S20 ; Define mesh grid

; Drives
M569 P0 S0 ; Drive 0 goes backwards
M569 P1 S0 ; Drive 1 goes backwards
M569 P2 S1 ; Drive 2 goes forwards
M569 P3 S0 ; Drive 3 goes backwards
M92 X80 Y80 Z400 E99 ; Set steps per mm
M350 E32 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
M350 X16 Y16 Z16 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
M566 X1200 Y1200 Z24 E300 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
M203 X30000 Y30000 Z600 E3000 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
M201 X500 Y500 Z100 E5000 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E800 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

; Heaters
M143 S265 ; Set maximum heater temperature to 265C
M305 P0 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
M305 P1 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1

; Tools
M563 P0 D0 H1 ; Define tool 0
G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
G10 P0 R0 S0 ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

; Network
M550 PDuetWifi.lan.local ; Set machine name
M552 S1 ; Enable network
M587 S"SSID" P"PASSWORT" ; Configure access point. You can delete this line once connected
M586 P0 S1 ; Enable HTTP
M586 P1 S0 ; Disable FTP
M586 P2 S0 ; Disable Telnet

; Fans
M106 P0 S1 I0 F500 H1 T50 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
M106 P1 S0 I0 F30 H-1 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off - have 2 Blowers parallel
M106 P2 S0.5 I0 F30 H-1 ; Set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off - have 2 Case Fans parallel

; Custom settings
M912 P0 S-13 ; calibrate MCU Temp

; Miscellaneous
M501 ; with PID Tune data
T0 ; Select first tool

config-override.g
.
.
.
M307 H0 A79.4 C307.3 D0.7 S1.00 B0
M307 H1 A481.0 C126.3 D7.7 S1.00 B0
.
.
.
–----

homeall.g

; homeall.g
; called to home all axes
;
; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Sat Oct 28 2017 00:02:03 GMT+0200 (Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit)

; Relative positioning
G91

; Lift Z
G1 Z5 F12000

; Course home X and Y
G1 X-305 Y-305 F3600 S1

; Move away from the endstops
G1 X10 Y10 F12000

; Fine home X and Y
G1 X-305 Y-305 F360 S1

; Move Z down until the switch triggers
G1 Z-405 F1800 S1

; Absolute positioning
G90

; Tell the firmware where we are
G92 Z0

; Uncomment the following line to lift the nozzle after probing
G1 Z5 F200

–---

.

Knaudler · 29 Oct 2017, 23:52

works great - you only hear the fans
in Vasemode - Vase 120mm diameter (but with edges)
5-6sec / Layer

perolalars · 4 Nov 2017, 18:16

@igi0815
Hi Ingo
Sound great that you have good experiance of converting the cr-10 to duet board because I am thinking of doing the same.
I havent recieved the printer yet but any day now (if not the swedish customs will grab it :-() . And have a duet wifi floating around somewhere…
But I wonder did you use a paneldue for display or did you use the original display? And if so how did you set it up? If not does it work with a paneldue (4.3") in the original case?
With the wifi, does it work through the case?
Do your printer have dual z-axis steppers?
many questions but would be happy for any input from you since you made this already!
Cheers
Per

Camalot977 · 5 Nov 2017, 11:46

Works great on my CR-10-4
Using the original case ,and like you , i raised the board about 30 mm for airflow.
I did swap the original case fans for a single Noctura 60 mm fan , and that keeps it just aound 30 degrees .c
I use the 5" PanelDue . And i must say i really love this setup . Really quiet printer now

Thanks for a great job on this g code

perolalars · 7 Nov 2017, 15:04

@Camalot977 Would you care to share your sys folder for the CR-10? I have been trying to use the reprap configuration tool but since I have not yet got my cr-10 4 printer I cant tell whats what…

totalitarian · 12 Nov 2017, 11:06

Works brilliantly. I had to turn down jerk a little but other than that, great job!

Agniusm · 12 Nov 2017, 16:05

Great. I have my cr10 stript and most parts replaced. Do you know how to set bed offsets? My endstop is 38mm outside of the bed on X and i cant figure out how to set it so it moves 38mm after homing.

totalitarian · 12 Nov 2017, 16:11

G31 I believe

dc42 · 12 Nov 2017, 17:13

@Agniusm:

Great. I have my cr10 stript and most parts replaced. Do you know how to set bed offsets? My endstop is 38mm outside of the bed on X and i cant figure out how to set it so it moves 38mm after homing.

Assuming it is an X-min endstop switch, use parameter X-38 in your M208 S1 command.

Agniusm · 11 Dec 2017, 17:41

Does that goes into config or homex? I had it set like that in config.g but my carriage slammed into physical x stop

dc42 · 12 Nov 2017, 19:12

That goes in config.g. It defines both the minimum X value after homing, and the X position when an X min endstop switch is triggered during a homing move. It has nothing to do with whether the carriage stops when it triggers the endstop switch.

dc42 · 3 Dec 2017, 14:17

I understand from elsewhere that there are 2 very loud fans in the CR10 control box. With the Duet WiFi installed, you probably don't need both of them, and you should be able to substitute a quieter fan.

stavrosgmtl · 31 Jan 2018, 15:23

@perolalars:

@Camalot977 Would you care to share your sys folder for the CR-10? I have been trying to use the reprap configuration tool but since I have not yet got my cr-10 4 printer I cant tell whats what…

A interested party here too my man. Excited to see this thing in action. My motor config on a late s4 is being a hassle

Knaudler · 2 Jul 2018, 18:16

Hello

I had an home move, so long time nothing new

some days ago I upgraded my CR-10
new hardware upgrade:

a new Case für DuetWifi - there are a lot in thingiverse
pla is better for wifi then metal case
powersource from Maas electronic or Alinco (for amateur radio)
12-15V with 35 Amps - really quite - very good quality and stable power - and a lot more secure then cheap china powersource
CR-10 frame grounded
4mm² for Heatbed
2.5mm² for Duet
(very smooth silicon cable)
drag chain on Heatbed
100A- SSR (100DD) from Banggood (only 0.008 ohm)
10A car fuse for Duet
20A car fuse for Heatbed
Noctura fan für Duet case
FW .21rc (for smoother pressure advance - 0.2 on my cr-10)

with 14.5V Heatbed needs 20A (cold)
(only 0.155v voltage drop on SSR)

now I'm testing FW retraction….
(think the gcode substitution script would be the best)

planned:

micro swiss nozzle
levelling with BLTouch...
but when the heating bed is perfectly aligned, there is no need for a levelling - the cr-10 the frame is stable enough
dual extrusion
arduino smoke detector for security

using S3D - but Cura (3.2) has a lot features now, maybe switching to cura or prusa slicer edition
(repetier now can use prusa slicer)
there are a lot updates on most slicers (nothing on S3D)

so Duet is very great uprade for CR-10

Greetings from Hamburg
Ingo

translated from german with deepl

edit:
only 30amps
MAAS SPS-350-II

Knaudler · 7 Feb 2018, 20:03

@perolalars:

@igi0815
Hi Ingo
Sound great that you have good experiance of converting the cr-10 to duet board because I am thinking of doing the same.
I havent recieved the printer yet but any day now (if not the swedish customs will grab it :-() . And have a duet wifi floating around somewhere…
But I wonder did you use a paneldue for display or did you use the original display? And if so how did you set it up? If not does it work with a paneldue (4.3") in the original case?
With the wifi, does it work through the case?
Do your printer have dual z-axis steppers?
many questions but would be happy for any input from you since you made this already!
Cheers
Per

Hello

no Display, only Android Tablet via wifi, or Laptop

genexene · 15 Apr 2018, 17:10

Thanks for sharing this valuable info. Your goodness is appreciated.

Can you advise on the CR-10S, we have dual-Z screws, how would we configure for that? I'm new to board upgrades. Thanks for your help!

zacklabel · 25 Apr 2018, 21:59

@genexene said in CR-10 with DuetWifi (original Case):

Thanks for sharing this valuable info. Your goodness is appreciated.

Can you advise on the CR-10S, we have dual-Z screws, how would we configure for that? I'm new to board upgrades. Thanks for your help!

Same, what do we put for the second Z? M569 P5 S1 ; Drive 4 goes forwards?

rickypilnik · 4 Jun 2018, 09:49

@knaudler Hi I was just wondering if you had finished your upgrades and so had a full set of configuration files with a bl-touch installed. I have been having a lot of trouble getting it set up and was wondering if you could share your files.

Many Thanks.

Knaudler · 4 Jun 2018, 09:49

@rickypilnik

hi
no BL Touch yet
in works good without - once the bed is leveled fine - manuel
it works

I print some reinforcing brackets
and screwed cr-10 on board (18mm Multiplex or Siebdruck)

not screwed its glued on rubber bumper
and the board on rubber

I have to look for an holder for Chimera hotend, there I will then mount the bl-touch...
but last weeks it was to hot in HH (28 grad in Room) to make anything with heat

and maybe an Bondtech extruder...