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    • tandarundefined
      tandar
      last edited by tandar

      The LEDs do indicate temp level.
      I assume it's a 12v bed since the power supply is 12v.
      The old slicer (Pango) allowed for different bed temps so I again assume that there's some sort of temp temp sensor on the bed (?).

      A lot of assumptions I know!

      I know the safe thing to do is to get a new bed. But I wanted to avoid this since I can't find a replacement with the right 3 hole pattern and I'd have to craft one from scratch.

      So I'll explore this a little more and see if I can decipher what's going on. I'll let you know.

      [EDIT] FYI - When I connect Red/White to 12v, the green power light illuminates and the first 2 temp LEDs light up. Temp does not increase

      I was looking forward to driving this old printer with a new Duet but if it doesn't work out, I've got other uses for this great board.

      Your help is greatly appreciated

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      • rjenkinsgbundefined
        rjenkinsgb
        last edited by rjenkinsgb

        Try connecting the 12V supply then try grounding the green wire, or if that has no effect try putting 4 to 5V on it (relative to 12V negative) ??

        That may be a PWM input, as black appears to be the thermistor?

        Robert J.

        Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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        • tandarundefined
          tandar @rjenkinsgb
          last edited by tandar

          @rjenkinsgb said in Kodama Trinus heated bed wiring help:

          at may be a PWM input, as black ap

          Robert - Thanks for the reply.
          Nothing happens with green grounded. And I'm not sure how to send 5v to green
          But...
          I've now got the board and bed on my bench connected to my PC.
          So I can control the board via the slicer and read voltages.
          When connected to the board and with Bed Heat OFF, the bed shows 12 v across Red/White and Red/Green
          When Bed heat is turned ON Red/Green shows 7 v.
          Does this tell you anything?
          cIMG_3728[1024].jpg
          I would just be happy to hack the Bed so that it comes on with power. I could then add a thermistor and use the duet to control temp

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          • rjenkinsgbundefined
            rjenkinsgb
            last edited by

            That looks like 5V between green and white! (12 - 7)
            White seems to be the 0V / common so the easiest reference for measurements.

            So, the green does appear to be a logic-level control input.

            I believe (but let one of the Duet gurus confirm) that connecting green to a 5V pin on one of the connectors via a resistor, eg. 1K or 470 Ohms, then adding a diode from the green to the bed heat PWM pin, with the diode cathode (banded end) to the PWM pin, should allow bed PWM to control the heater, though inverted..

            The Duet 2 board does not look to have many 5V points, so I'll leave it to someone more familiar with it to suggest a safe connection.

            Robert J.

            Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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            • T3P3Tonyundefined
              T3P3Tony administrators @tandar
              last edited by

              @tandar using the original controller to control the temperature, when you turn the bed heat on, its sounds like (as @rjenkinsgb has said), that there is 5V between white and Green (please check). with it off is there 0V between white and green (sounds like there should be but check). I assume with the bed heater tuned on the bed is actually heating?

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              • tandarundefined
                tandar
                last edited by tandar

                Yes

                • When when Bed is first connected to the powered board; White/Green = 0v
                • When bed heat is turned on via Pango Console; White/Green = 5v
                • Bed starts to heat up. Red HEAT LED lights, the board is warmer to the touch, and the console reports rising temp

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                • T3P3Tonyundefined
                  T3P3Tony administrators @tandar
                  last edited by

                  @tandar ok that confirms that the green line is a 5V "on" control for the heated bed. @rjenkinsgb has suggested how to adapt a normal duet PWM output to control it.

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                  • tandarundefined
                    tandar
                    last edited by tandar

                    Thanks everyone - I'll try the suggested wiring.

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators @tandar
                      last edited by

                      @tandar which Duet do you have? If it is one of the later ones with a 5V Laser/VFD output, then another possibility is to use that output to drive the control wire of your bed heater, so as to use the mosfet on the heater to control it.

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                      • Phil Maddoxundefined
                        Phil Maddox @tandar
                        last edited by

                        @tandar
                        In case anybody else reads this thread
                        In the process of upgrading my trinus to a more modern control board i have evaluated the options for adapting the bed and chosen what in my opinion is the most simple and straight forward
                        The mod is reversible but does require some wiring and a thermistor.

                        Hope this helps
                        Kodama heated bed mod

                        While the board i have is slightly newer than the OP's they are compatible with each other
                        and the Panowin Kodama & Bardo boards so the wiring / pin outs etc should be identical

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