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    • SIamundefined
      SIam
      last edited by

      Hello

      this sounds not good 😞 on the board is nothing what is hot. I think you mean the z endstop ? this is a mechanical micro switch.

      Hypercube-Evolution-Hybrid, Piezo Orion, Orbiter
      Duet WiFi 1.02 or later + DueX5
      RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet 3.4.0beta4 (2021-09-27 11:30:36)
      Duet WiFi Server: 1.26
      Duet Web Control 3.4.0beta4 (2021-09-27)

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      • SIamundefined
        SIam
        last edited by

        hi,

        now i have controlled the Board Power on the 5 V i have 4.88V and on the 3.3 V i Have 3.1 Volts

        Hypercube-Evolution-Hybrid, Piezo Orion, Orbiter
        Duet WiFi 1.02 or later + DueX5
        RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet 3.4.0beta4 (2021-09-27 11:30:36)
        Duet WiFi Server: 1.26
        Duet Web Control 3.4.0beta4 (2021-09-27)

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        • dc42undefined
          dc42 administrators
          last edited by

          That's an odd failure mode. I've seen a couple of boards where the 5V or 3.3V rail appears to have been shorted to +12V or +24V, and in both cases the heaters turned on all the time AND some chips were getting hot (usually the 3.3V regulator, processor, and sometimes the 74HCT02 or 74HC125). If the 3.3V rail is only at 3.1V, that does suggest that the 3.3V rail is overloaded, in which case I would expect at least the 3.3V regulator to get hot.

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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          • SIamundefined
            SIam
            last edited by

            Today i have checked again all the kable in the hope to find a blank or lose connection which can cause a short circuit something must have happened but i can't find it.
            The only part of the printer which are supplied with 24 V and 3.3V is the hot end but even there I found nothing I'm going crazy.

            I'm an electronics technician myself and this makes it twice bad that i can't find any error

            At one point we agree that the board seems to be defective what may have ever happened is there a way to get this board repaired? if yes how? this board is 2 months old

            Hypercube-Evolution-Hybrid, Piezo Orion, Orbiter
            Duet WiFi 1.02 or later + DueX5
            RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet 3.4.0beta4 (2021-09-27 11:30:36)
            Duet WiFi Server: 1.26
            Duet Web Control 3.4.0beta4 (2021-09-27)

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            • SIamundefined
              SIam
              last edited by

              so far so good the printer works with a new Duet (except Y port) now is only the question what hav i to do to get the first board repaired ? can i send it directly or should i go to my German Seller?

              Hypercube-Evolution-Hybrid, Piezo Orion, Orbiter
              Duet WiFi 1.02 or later + DueX5
              RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet 3.4.0beta4 (2021-09-27 11:30:36)
              Duet WiFi Server: 1.26
              Duet Web Control 3.4.0beta4 (2021-09-27)

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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators
                last edited by

                @SIam:

                Today i have checked again all the kable in the hope to find a blank or lose connection which can cause a short circuit something must have happened but i can't find it.
                The only part of the printer which are supplied with 24 V and 3.3V is the hot end but even there I found nothing I'm going crazy.

                I'm an electronics technician myself and this makes it twice bad that i can't find any error

                It's not uncommon for the cartridge heater in a hot end to develop a short between the element and the case, sometimes only when is hot. This puts the entire hot end metalwork at +12V or +24V. So you only need a short from the metalwork to something else on the hot end assembly to feed +12V or +24V to somewhere that it shouldn't be. The thermistor connections on the Duet are protected against this, but not the 3.3V pin on the Z probe connector that provides power to the Z probe. What type of Z probe do you have, and is there any possibility that it could have shorted against the hot end metalwork?

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                • SIamundefined
                  SIam
                  last edited by

                  i don't use a z Probe i only have an Z-endstop switch.

                  here are some photos from the hotend : https://photos.app.goo.gl/GfxbeygkryZRTKCE2

                  Hypercube-Evolution-Hybrid, Piezo Orion, Orbiter
                  Duet WiFi 1.02 or later + DueX5
                  RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet 3.4.0beta4 (2021-09-27 11:30:36)
                  Duet WiFi Server: 1.26
                  Duet Web Control 3.4.0beta4 (2021-09-27)

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators
                    last edited by

                    So is there any 3.3V wiring on the hot end apart from the thermistor wires?

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                    • elmoretundefined
                      elmoret
                      last edited by

                      Looks like a large DSUB connector, perhaps a stray wire inside that connector shorted +24v to +3.3v?

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                      • SIamundefined
                        SIam
                        last edited by

                        on the first photo you see a gray flat cable this is the only 3.3V to the optical x endstop This cable goes directly to the Duet the other cable (fan/hotend and Thermistor) goes to the sub D connector and then to the Duet.
                        All used pins in The sub D case are isolated with shrinking tube

                        Hypercube-Evolution-Hybrid, Piezo Orion, Orbiter
                        Duet WiFi 1.02 or later + DueX5
                        RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet 3.4.0beta4 (2021-09-27 11:30:36)
                        Duet WiFi Server: 1.26
                        Duet Web Control 3.4.0beta4 (2021-09-27)

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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators
                          last edited by

                          Please put in a warranty claim to your supplier.

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                          • SIamundefined
                            SIam
                            last edited by

                            ok Thank You i will contact my supplier

                            Hypercube-Evolution-Hybrid, Piezo Orion, Orbiter
                            Duet WiFi 1.02 or later + DueX5
                            RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet 3.4.0beta4 (2021-09-27 11:30:36)
                            Duet WiFi Server: 1.26
                            Duet Web Control 3.4.0beta4 (2021-09-27)

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