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    • SIamundefined
      SIam
      last edited by

      hi,

      now i have controlled the Board Power on the 5 V i have 4.88V and on the 3.3 V i Have 3.1 Volts

      Hypercube-Evolution-Hybrid, Piezo Orion, Orbiter
      Duet WiFi 1.02 or later + DueX5
      RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet 3.4.0beta4 (2021-09-27 11:30:36)
      Duet WiFi Server: 1.26
      Duet Web Control 3.4.0beta4 (2021-09-27)

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      • dc42undefined
        dc42 administrators
        last edited by

        That's an odd failure mode. I've seen a couple of boards where the 5V or 3.3V rail appears to have been shorted to +12V or +24V, and in both cases the heaters turned on all the time AND some chips were getting hot (usually the 3.3V regulator, processor, and sometimes the 74HCT02 or 74HC125). If the 3.3V rail is only at 3.1V, that does suggest that the 3.3V rail is overloaded, in which case I would expect at least the 3.3V regulator to get hot.

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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        • SIamundefined
          SIam
          last edited by

          Today i have checked again all the kable in the hope to find a blank or lose connection which can cause a short circuit something must have happened but i can't find it.
          The only part of the printer which are supplied with 24 V and 3.3V is the hot end but even there I found nothing I'm going crazy.

          I'm an electronics technician myself and this makes it twice bad that i can't find any error

          At one point we agree that the board seems to be defective what may have ever happened is there a way to get this board repaired? if yes how? this board is 2 months old

          Hypercube-Evolution-Hybrid, Piezo Orion, Orbiter
          Duet WiFi 1.02 or later + DueX5
          RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet 3.4.0beta4 (2021-09-27 11:30:36)
          Duet WiFi Server: 1.26
          Duet Web Control 3.4.0beta4 (2021-09-27)

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          • SIamundefined
            SIam
            last edited by

            so far so good the printer works with a new Duet (except Y port) now is only the question what hav i to do to get the first board repaired ? can i send it directly or should i go to my German Seller?

            Hypercube-Evolution-Hybrid, Piezo Orion, Orbiter
            Duet WiFi 1.02 or later + DueX5
            RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet 3.4.0beta4 (2021-09-27 11:30:36)
            Duet WiFi Server: 1.26
            Duet Web Control 3.4.0beta4 (2021-09-27)

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators
              last edited by

              @SIam:

              Today i have checked again all the kable in the hope to find a blank or lose connection which can cause a short circuit something must have happened but i can't find it.
              The only part of the printer which are supplied with 24 V and 3.3V is the hot end but even there I found nothing I'm going crazy.

              I'm an electronics technician myself and this makes it twice bad that i can't find any error

              It's not uncommon for the cartridge heater in a hot end to develop a short between the element and the case, sometimes only when is hot. This puts the entire hot end metalwork at +12V or +24V. So you only need a short from the metalwork to something else on the hot end assembly to feed +12V or +24V to somewhere that it shouldn't be. The thermistor connections on the Duet are protected against this, but not the 3.3V pin on the Z probe connector that provides power to the Z probe. What type of Z probe do you have, and is there any possibility that it could have shorted against the hot end metalwork?

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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              • SIamundefined
                SIam
                last edited by

                i don't use a z Probe i only have an Z-endstop switch.

                here are some photos from the hotend : https://photos.app.goo.gl/GfxbeygkryZRTKCE2

                Hypercube-Evolution-Hybrid, Piezo Orion, Orbiter
                Duet WiFi 1.02 or later + DueX5
                RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet 3.4.0beta4 (2021-09-27 11:30:36)
                Duet WiFi Server: 1.26
                Duet Web Control 3.4.0beta4 (2021-09-27)

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators
                  last edited by

                  So is there any 3.3V wiring on the hot end apart from the thermistor wires?

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                  • elmoretundefined
                    elmoret
                    last edited by

                    Looks like a large DSUB connector, perhaps a stray wire inside that connector shorted +24v to +3.3v?

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                    • SIamundefined
                      SIam
                      last edited by

                      on the first photo you see a gray flat cable this is the only 3.3V to the optical x endstop This cable goes directly to the Duet the other cable (fan/hotend and Thermistor) goes to the sub D connector and then to the Duet.
                      All used pins in The sub D case are isolated with shrinking tube

                      Hypercube-Evolution-Hybrid, Piezo Orion, Orbiter
                      Duet WiFi 1.02 or later + DueX5
                      RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet 3.4.0beta4 (2021-09-27 11:30:36)
                      Duet WiFi Server: 1.26
                      Duet Web Control 3.4.0beta4 (2021-09-27)

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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators
                        last edited by

                        Please put in a warranty claim to your supplier.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                        • SIamundefined
                          SIam
                          last edited by

                          ok Thank You i will contact my supplier

                          Hypercube-Evolution-Hybrid, Piezo Orion, Orbiter
                          Duet WiFi 1.02 or later + DueX5
                          RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet 3.4.0beta4 (2021-09-27 11:30:36)
                          Duet WiFi Server: 1.26
                          Duet Web Control 3.4.0beta4 (2021-09-27)

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