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    • peteupshallundefined
      peteupshall @Nightowl
      last edited by

      @Nightowl Yes I tried all the suggestions but I just cant get it to work as expected.
      Thanks for all your help though.

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      • jay_s_ukundefined
        jay_s_uk @peteupshall
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        @peteupshall you'll need a second output then from another heater output to the FWD connection on the VFD and then add it to the M950 e.g.

        M950 R0 C"OUT_9+out8"
        

        Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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        • peteupshallundefined
          peteupshall @jay_s_uk
          last edited by peteupshall

          @jay_s_uk Do I need to use some sort of relay?
          What voltage and settings would i need to provide to FWD from Duet?

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          • jay_s_ukundefined
            jay_s_uk @peteupshall
            last edited by

            @peteupshall no, just a wire between the negative of the output to the fwd connector

            Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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            • peteupshallundefined
              peteupshall @jay_s_uk
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              @jay_s_uk Have tried Gnd on pin out 6 to FOR
              Changed M950 R0 C"out9+out6" L0:24000 Q1000
              Also tried to put directly into config.g but still no spindle start or stop.
              Checking again with RUN button on VFD reactivated and I have speed control and sort of a stop control M5 but it just reduces to 500rpm not a complete stop.
              Any further ideas?

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              • jay_s_ukundefined
                jay_s_uk @peteupshall
                last edited by

                @peteupshall just checked my wiring and I also have a wire between the + of the heater output and DCM on the top row.
                some more info can be found here https://wiki.printnc.info/en/electronics/vfd/config#h-0-5v

                Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                • peteupshallundefined
                  peteupshall @jay_s_uk
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                  @jay_s_uk So So close now. I now have spindle on and off and speed control via web control and gcode .
                  The only thing still not working is M5- Stop. When M5 is activated the spindle drops to about 500rpm, although VFD still shows 12000rpm, and stays there.
                  Is there a minimum RPM setting somewhere?
                  Thanks for your support so far you have been awesome!

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                  • peteupshallundefined
                    peteupshall @peteupshall
                    last edited by

                    Also just noticed that as I have to press STOP on the VFD to stop spindle I then can't restart using Web Control or Gcode.
                    Also when set at 12000rpm on web control it shows just over 13500rpm on VFD. Is this just a case of fine tuning the 0-10v converter?

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                    • jay_s_ukundefined
                      jay_s_uk @peteupshall
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                      @peteupshall yes, it just a case of adjusting the screw on the PWM converter.
                      You need to set the minimum RPM in M950. I think the spindle I have has a minimum RPM of 6000

                      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                      • peteupshallundefined
                        peteupshall @jay_s_uk
                        last edited by

                        @jay_s_uk Minimum rpm is currently set to 0, should it be something else then?

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                        • jay_s_ukundefined
                          jay_s_uk @peteupshall
                          last edited by

                          @peteupshall yes. more than likely there will be a minimum RPM that your spindle can work at, set it to that

                          Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                          • peteupshallundefined
                            peteupshall @jay_s_uk
                            last edited by

                            @jay_s_uk Minimum RPM on specs is 0 but have tried it at 600 but still the same.
                            If I adjust the 12000rpm it knocks the 24000rpm which is spot on, would it be an innacuracy with the 0-10v converter?

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                            • Nightowlundefined
                              Nightowl @jay_s_uk
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                              @jay_s_uk
                              That might depend on the milling motor or spindle.

                              I (now) know the Sorotec and Mafell have a minimum speed of 4,000RPM, but the AMB/Kress does go down to 0.

                              I'm not sure about water/air-cooled spindles, though.

                              Few things are more dangerous than taking the advice of someone who thinks he knows what he's doing.
                              I'm still on my learning curve, so take everything I say with caution!

                              RatRig 1075, Duet3 MB6HC, Sorotec SFM 1000 PV-ER milling motor, Hobbyist

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                              • jay_s_ukundefined
                                jay_s_uk @Nightowl
                                last edited by

                                @Nightowl mines a water cooled one. no idea what spindle is being used here

                                Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                • peteupshallundefined
                                  peteupshall @jay_s_uk
                                  last edited by

                                  @jay_s_uk Hi 1.5kw aircooled spindle

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                                  • jay_s_ukundefined
                                    jay_s_uk @peteupshall
                                    last edited by

                                    @peteupshall itll probably have the same minimum RPM as mine then, so 6000

                                    Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                    • peteupshallundefined
                                      peteupshall @jay_s_uk
                                      last edited by

                                      @jay_s_uk Still no joy. Set it to 6000 and M5 still wont make it stop. Tearing my hair out now as I cant get my head arround whats going on. Could it be a VFD setting?

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                                      • peteupshallundefined
                                        peteupshall @peteupshall
                                        last edited by

                                        Sorted it and dancing around the workshop .
                                        Looked at all the frequency settings on VFD and noticed that PD011 was set to 200.00. Set it to factory 0 and it all works.
                                        Thanks so much for all your help. This forum is invaluable.

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