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    • o_lampeundefined
      o_lampe @Silrocco
      last edited by

      @Silrocco
      There's nothing obvious wrong with config.
      Did you use "M302 P1 ; Allow cold extrusion" before trying to extrude?
      Can you confirm the hotend works and is on target temp?

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      • Silroccoundefined
        Silrocco @o_lampe
        last edited by Silrocco

        @o_lampe , Hi. Happy New Year!

        Okay, I just tried the M302, allow for cold extrude.
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        Same results, NO stepper motor movement when commanding to extruding, only movement is when retracting.

        Prior to the M302, I was reaching the temperature target, no issue with temp.

        Thank you for your support.

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator @Silrocco
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          @Silrocco said in Mini 5 Extruder Motor will only spins in one direction (retract):

          When I changed the value from the default of 800 mA to 1000 mA the printer will function as long as I don't shut the power off.

          What are the specs of the motor?

          Have you tried a different motor?

          Have you tried the motor out of the extruder mechanism?

          Is there something mechanically restricting it?

          It sounds like either a problem with the motor or the extruder mechanism.

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          • Silroccoundefined
            Silrocco @Phaedrux
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            @Phaedrux

            What are the specs of the motor? Wantai - 42BYGHW609P1-X10, 1.8 degree Stepper, 1.7A

            Have you tried a different motor? Yes. Same issue.

            Have you tried the motor out of the extruder mechanism? Yes, I removed motor from the gear extruder housing, it's how I ran M302 P1.

            Is there something mechanically restricting it? No. As I mentioned, I can change the mA values in the Config and restart the config, although I have to repeat the process until I can get it to work.

            It sounds like either a problem with the motor or the extruder mechanism. Not likely, If I reinstall the Deut2 WiFi it works perfect.

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            • OwenDundefined
              OwenD @Silrocco
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              @Silrocco Try mapping the extruder to a different driver.

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              • Silroccoundefined
                Silrocco @OwenD
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                @OwenD I have already done that. I've explained that on my initial post.

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator
                  last edited by

                  I think you're setting the current a bit low on that motor. I'd probably go with 1200-1500ma

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                  • Silroccoundefined
                    Silrocco @Phaedrux
                    last edited by Silrocco

                    @Phaedrux okay, I didn't want to higher than 1mA risking damage to the driver, ignorance mainly, but I will try going higher as you suggested once I get a chance.

                    Why does the driver drive the motor in reverse (retract) with the mA current settings?

                    Thank you.

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator
                      last edited by

                      What current are you using on the Duet2?

                      Does this happen with all motors when set as extruders, but not when set as XY?

                      The rule of thumb is to aim for 60-80% of the rated motor current. If the current is too low things can behave strangely sometimes.

                      You can also try forcing the drivers into spreadcycle mode and avoid stealthchop mode.

                      https://docs.duet3d.com/en/User_manual/Connecting_hardware/Motors_tuning

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                      • Silroccoundefined
                        Silrocco @Phaedrux
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                        @Phaedrux Sorry for getting back late, I was out on a business trip.

                        For the Duet2 WIFI, the current was set to 1A and ran without issues, but I understand it has different drivers and beside the fact it's older, nonetheless it worked.

                        No issues with other axis.

                        I changed the motor drive current to all the axis to 80% of motor mA specs, but that didn't change the behavior, as it the extruder motor still shuddered when commanded to extrude.

                        Although after enabling StealthChop it is now extruding. To verify, I have power-cycled the printer multiple times and now when I run an M302 P1 it extrudes and printed a 20mm cube without issues.

                        Issue RESOLVED!

                        Thank you for the support!

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                        • o_lampeundefined
                          o_lampe @Silrocco
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                          @Silrocco said in Mini 5 Extruder Motor will only spins in one direction (retract):

                          and now when I run an M302 P1 it extrudes and printed

                          "M302 P1" is only necessary for cold-extruding during tests or filament changes. You don't need it when the hotend reached working temperature.

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                          • Silroccoundefined
                            Silrocco @o_lampe
                            last edited by Silrocco

                            @o_lampe Yes, I know that. I had the motor removed from the extruder gear housing. What I meant is that I'm using M302 P1 and commanding "Extrude" from the GUI to monitor movement for testing.

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