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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators @jaclop
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      @jaclop thanks. I can see the traces clearly on the underside, but not on the top side. So I still can't work out the schematic. Can you provide a photo of the top side with good lighting?

      I am a little concerned that there are high voltage connections close to low voltage connections on that board:
      09f8fdce-69a2-419d-a614-cbc756f00dd7-image.png

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      • jaclopundefined
        jaclop @dc42
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        @dc42 top_2.jpg top_1.jpg bottom.jpg Thanks again for your patience and help.

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        • dc42undefined
          dc42 administrators @jaclop
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          @jaclop it looks to me that you can connect DC+ to +5V, DC- to GND, and CH1 to the PS_ON pin.

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          • jaclopundefined
            jaclop @dc42
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            @dc42 Thanks. Is it also recommended to use a snubber like so between the two live wire contacts? In the past, I had to replace the SSR every 9 months or so which I'm guessing were failing due to voltage spikes.
            snubber.jpg

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators @jaclop
              last edited by dc42

              @jaclop a snubber is usually only needed when the SSR drives an inductive load.

              I suspect that the SSR may have failed because the surge current that the PSU draws when you start it up was too large. A larger SSR such as SSR25DA might be a better choice and can be driven directly from +5V (+ve control input) and PS_ON (-ve control input). Note, many Fotek SSR25DA listings on shopping sites are fakes.

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              • jaclopundefined
                jaclop @dc42
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                @dc42 Thanks. I could not get the SSR module working and due to the likelihood of future failures I have installed the SSR25DA but this is also not working.

                I have M81 C"!pson" in my config.g file. I tried initially with i04.out and now have the positive input of the SSR25DA connected to 5V_EXT of IO_4 and the negative input of the SSR connected to pson. I have tried sending these commands: M80 C"!pson", M80 C"pson", M81 C"!pson", M81 C"pson, but the relay is not turning on the 12V PSU. My Duet Mini 5+ is being powered via the Micro USB using a 5V 2.5A power supply.

                Am I doing something wrong or is there something I can try to troubleshoot this issue?

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                • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                  DIY-O-Sphere @jaclop
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                  @jaclop
                  Which RRF version?

                  (UTC+1)

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                    jaclop @DIY-O-Sphere
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                    @DIY-O-Sphere

                    From Machine-Specific General Tab:

                    Board: Duet 3 Mini 5+ (Mini5plus)
                    Firmware: RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 Mini 5+ 3.3RC2 (2021-05-11)
                    Duet WiFi Server Version: 1.26

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                    • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                      DIY-O-Sphere @jaclop
                      last edited by DIY-O-Sphere

                      @jaclop
                      With RRF 3.3 you only need to add

                      M80
                      

                      at the end of config.g

                      (UTC+1)

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                      • jaclopundefined
                        jaclop @DIY-O-Sphere
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                        @DIY-O-Sphere I added M80 to the end of the config file and applied the new configuration by running it but it did not activate the relay.

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                        • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                          DIY-O-Sphere @jaclop
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                          @jaclop
                          https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/19161/smart-remote-power-control?
                          Maybe the wiring diagram helps. Have a look on the input side of the relay.
                          You need the +5V and the middle pin of PS-On

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                          • jaclopundefined
                            jaclop @DIY-O-Sphere
                            last edited by jaclop

                            @DIY-O-Sphere Re-checked my wiring but I still can't get the relay to activate.

                            This is the relay, the 5V_EXT connection and the PSON connection:

                            relay_1.jpg
                            5v_ext.jpg
                            pson.jpg

                            Is activating the relay using a GPIO pin an option? If so, how would I do that?

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                            • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                              DIY-O-Sphere @jaclop
                              last edited by DIY-O-Sphere

                              @jaclop said in Duet 3 Mini 5+ controlling Power Supply with SSR:

                              5V_EXT

                              What is your setup of these two jumpers?
                              400f7e3b-cb8b-47b4-8a1f-4b753161f500-grafik.png

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                              • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                                DIY-O-Sphere @jaclop
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                                @jaclop said in Duet 3 Mini 5+ controlling Power Supply with SSR:

                                Is activating the relay using a GPIO pin an option?

                                PS_ON should do the job....I guess you don't have the +5v voltage on the 5V_EXT pin

                                (UTC+1)

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                                • jaclopundefined
                                  jaclop @DIY-O-Sphere
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                                  @DIY-O-Sphere It's working! I went to take a picture of my jumper set-up and accidentally "nudged" the cable connecting the 5V pin and PS_ON pin. My PSU turned on... I can now turn it on and off my PSU with M80 and M81 commands. I will double check the connections next time. Thanks a lot for your help, will mark this as resolved.

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