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    tecno @tecno
    last edited by 21 Apr 2023, 10:49

    I have managed to place the LIS3DSH board and made cabling for it.

    M955 P0 is OK
    Trying M956 command fails to start data collection.

    Is this lacking Ixx info in config?

    LIS3DSH.PNG

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      tecno @tecno
      last edited by 21 Apr 2023, 10:57

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        tecno @tecno
        last edited by 21 Apr 2023, 13:14

        Now this 😞

        494b6f46-9928-4889-ab6f-5487ba21c224-image.png

        The accelerometer is OK, tested on other printer.
        Used multimeter to verify connection pin to pin.

        Tried another IO for CS/INT

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          tecno @tecno
          last edited by 21 Apr 2023, 14:27

          @dc42
          Is there a way to test port functionality for accelerometer on Mini5+ Lan version

          I suspect that something is wrong with this board as it will not function.

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            dc42 administrators @tecno
            last edited by 21 Apr 2023, 14:37

            @tecno are you using the same cabling on both machines, or different cabling? The most common issue we see with these accelerometers is that the CS signal is sensitive to noise, which it can pick up from other signals in the same cable. Better cabling fixes the problem, however a small capacitor between CS and ground on the LIS3D[S]H board would probably fix it too. 220pF might be a suitable value.

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              tecno @dc42
              last edited by 21 Apr 2023, 14:51

              @dc42
              Two different cabling, on this Delta I have two different shielded cables one for VCC/GND/CS shield grounded on Duet side.

              Will try cap

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                tecno @tecno
                last edited by tecno 21 Apr 2023, 15:00

                @dc42

                Same with cap CS to GND /// This does not work on my Chiron. May wrong value cap

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                  dc42 administrators @tecno
                  last edited by dc42 21 Apr 2023, 15:07

                  @tecno you could try 470pF or even 1nF. If that still doesn't work then I would suspect a bad connection.

                  The error message you reported earlier concerning INT1 suggests that the INT line was not connected or was not configured correctly.

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                    tecno @dc42
                    last edited by 21 Apr 2023, 15:08

                    @dc42
                    Will do, back shortly. PS did work on my chiron !

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                      tecno @dc42
                      last edited by 21 Apr 2023, 15:17

                      @dc42 said in LIS3DSH placement:

                      470pF or even 1nF

                      Sorry NoGo

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                        tecno @tecno
                        last edited by tecno 21 Apr 2023, 16:42

                        @dc42

                        Just made a very short cable just to verify if port on Duet board is busted or not = it is not.

                        lis3dsh_short.JPG

                        So the long cable I have is just too much ~2.10m, Maybe I can cut it down to ~1.6m, need to have space to move all axis πŸ˜‰ for input shaping.

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                          tecno @tecno
                          last edited by 21 Apr 2023, 17:20

                          Did cut down the cable = NoGo

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                            tecno @tecno
                            last edited by 23 Apr 2023, 16:22

                            Is it really that bad that my accelerometer boards are useless due to cable lenght?

                            Is there any development as regards Smart effector to include accelerometer?

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                              dc42 administrators @tecno
                              last edited by 24 Apr 2023, 01:13

                              @tecno I am pushing for the combined Smart Effector and tool board to be done soon. We will increase the size and the rod spacing (perhaps from 55 to 70mm) to accommodate a small direct drive extruder, and maybe change the hot end mounting to suit the E3D Revo Voron hot end. Does that sound OK?

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                                tecno @dc42
                                last edited by 24 Apr 2023, 07:48

                                @dc42
                                That sounds to be very good solution to get all signals as short as possible.

                                If you need a beta tester I am here awaiting πŸ™‚

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                                  achrn @dc42
                                  last edited by 24 Apr 2023, 09:37

                                  @dc42 said in LIS3DSH placement:

                                  @tecno I am pushing for the combined Smart Effector and tool board to be done soon. We will increase the size and the rod spacing (perhaps from 55 to 70mm) to accommodate a small direct drive extruder, and maybe change the hot end mounting to suit the E3D Revo Voron hot end. Does that sound OK?

                                  FWIW, it sounds fabulous to me - it has been mentioned a number of times, and I expect I'll place an order as soon as I see it (I'd even pre-order). Personally, I'd prefer a Revo Micro (because I currently have a revo micro on my smarteffector, so it avoids additional purchases) but I'd still buy if I needed a new Revo heatsink.

                                  My preferred extruder would be orbiter (which I have on other printer and am happy with), but I do note that it's more eccentric (about the filament path) than some other options.

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                                    tecno @achrn
                                    last edited by 24 Apr 2023, 09:41

                                    @achrn
                                    I run a watercooled Phaetus Dragon with Orbiter V2.0 so it only needs a new SE board.

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                                      apak @dc42
                                      last edited by 24 Apr 2023, 11:07

                                      @dc42 awesome.....canΒ΄t wait for it!!!

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                                        janjoh @dc42
                                        last edited by 28 Apr 2023, 06:45

                                        @dc42 said in LIS3DSH placement:

                                        E3D Revo Voron

                                        Remind me, is that one "bolt compatible" with the Mosquito from Slice Engineering? If it is; Sign me up for a pre-order! πŸ˜‰

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