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    Fly-RRF-36 RP2040 Based CAN-FD Toolboard

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    • jay_s_ukundefined
      jay_s_uk @Exerqtor
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      @Exerqtor the SB2040 variant would be based on the SB2040v2 that flymaker sells now

      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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      • 0nn0undefined
        0nn0
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        Are there any EU-based resellers?

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        • jay_s_ukundefined
          jay_s_uk @0nn0
          last edited by

          @0nn0 not currently that i'm aware of

          Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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          • oliofundefined
            oliof @jay_s_uk
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            meltbro has some mellow stock, maybe ask them.

            <>RatRig V-Minion Fly Super5Pro RRF<> V-Core 3.1 IDEX k*****r <> RatRig V-Minion SKR 2 Marlin<>

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              A Former User @Exerqtor
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              • fractalengineerundefined
                fractalengineer @jay_s_uk
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                @jay_s_uk Heyy I just saw this now;

                Looks wicked!

                A couple questions;

                1- I see the encoder options are unavailable; is this still in development?
                I could I install the hall sensor myself on the unpopulated board version if there's a firmware for it

                2- What is the USB-C for? Firmware update?

                Railcore II ZL

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                • oliofundefined
                  oliof @fractalengineer
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                  @fractalengineer I am not Jay, but I can offer some answers.

                  1. support for the encoder, and so far no use case for an encoder on a board that is probably always being used for an extruder motor has been presented.
                  2. THe USB-C is for initial firmware installation. The latest RRF beta can do updates by way of M997 IIRC

                  <>RatRig V-Minion Fly Super5Pro RRF<> V-Core 3.1 IDEX k*****r <> RatRig V-Minion SKR 2 Marlin<>

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                  • fractalengineerundefined
                    fractalengineer @oliof
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                    @oliof thank you for your answer,

                    Interesting I could totally see it used to detect extruder jams, or correcting for small shifts/stalls when extruding at the limits of the hot end envelope

                    Either way the UVP seem rather attractive already I'll be getting one regardless 🙂

                    Railcore II ZL

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                    • fractalengineerundefined
                      fractalengineer @fractalengineer
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                      Do you reckon there might be any issue running it at 29.4V?

                      I've checked the schematics, looks like the main 12V buck IC can take up to 40V, but the 2209 appears rated 29V and I'm not sure about the heater fet

                      I'm running fat Nema23 I need all the voltage I can have to get decent speeds lol

                      Railcore II ZL

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                      • jay_s_ukundefined
                        jay_s_uk @fractalengineer
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                        @fractalengineer I've asked the question

                        Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                        • jay_s_ukundefined
                          jay_s_uk @fractalengineer
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                          @fractalengineer Flymaker (the designer) says 35V

                          Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                          • o_lampeundefined
                            o_lampe @fractalengineer
                            last edited by o_lampe

                            @fractalengineer I wonder how good of a match the TMC2209 and a fat NEMA23 motor will be? You'd have to throttle down the current so much, that there's not much torque left. You'll probably end up in NEMA17-range but with much bigger rotor inertia...

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                            • fractalengineerundefined
                              fractalengineer @o_lampe
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                              @jay_s_uk Thank you very much, that does it for me!

                              @o_lampe Oh no the X/Y I'm running on TMC5160 from my Duet3MB6HC; I've found 65% of the rated 2.4A to be a good balance for my drivetrain.

                              Ideally I would have loved to try a board with a separate driver power rail to send them 48V but that would mean switching over to klipper

                              I have a whole couple threads on the forum if you want to learn more about running/tuning for big steppers

                              https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/18010/duet-3-stealthchop-2-tuning-for-nema23

                              https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/16297/help-needed-with-duet-3-6hc-tmc5160-stealthchop-config

                              Railcore II ZL

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                              • o_lampeundefined
                                o_lampe @fractalengineer
                                last edited by o_lampe

                                @fractalengineer said in Fly-RRF-36 RP2040 Based CAN-FD Toolboard:

                                send them 48V but that would mean switching over to klipper

                                On my CNC I'm using a Mellow Fly board with a split high-voltage driver rail (3x high voltage, 5x board supply voltage). It runs on RRF and allows mixing various stepper drivers. Not sure about it's CAN-FD abilities, but there are newer boards from Fly...

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                                • fractalengineerundefined
                                  fractalengineer @o_lampe
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                                  @o_lampe holy I might have to look into it then thanks for the heads up!

                                  Railcore II ZL

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                                  • dc42undefined
                                    dc42 administrators @fractalengineer
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                                    @fractalengineer said in Fly-RRF-36 RP2040 Based CAN-FD Toolboard:

                                    Ideally I would have loved to try a board with a separate driver power rail to send them 48V but that would mean switching over to klipper

                                    Duet 3 MB6HC version 1.2 and later support 48V VIN.

                                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                    • jay_s_ukundefined
                                      jay_s_uk
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                                      @KenW yes, that right. It appears they've been preloading them with 3.5b4.
                                      I need to update the documentation on it

                                      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                      • breedundefined
                                        breed
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                                        I was wondering about putting a few of these in a heated chamber. Any info on maximum chamber temp before it starts having issues? i dont see any max temp specs on github or on aliexpress page. Im wanting to run between 80C-100C.

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                                        • jay_s_ukundefined
                                          jay_s_uk @breed
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                                          @breed I would suggest its 85 degrees (without having to look at all the datasheets for each component).

                                          Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                          • breedundefined
                                            breed @jay_s_uk
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                                            @jay_s_uk That's what I was thinking too. Regular duet tool board is prob the same.

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