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    Fly-RRF-36 RP2040 Based CAN-FD Toolboard

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    • 0nn0undefined
      0nn0
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      Are there any EU-based resellers?

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      • jay_s_ukundefined
        jay_s_uk @0nn0
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        @0nn0 not currently that i'm aware of

        Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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        • oliofundefined
          oliof @jay_s_uk
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          meltbro has some mellow stock, maybe ask them.

          <>RatRig V-Minion Fly Super5Pro RRF<> V-Core 3.1 IDEX k*****r <> RatRig V-Minion SKR 2 Marlin<>

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            A Former User @Exerqtor
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            • fractalengineerundefined
              fractalengineer @jay_s_uk
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              @jay_s_uk Heyy I just saw this now;

              Looks wicked!

              A couple questions;

              1- I see the encoder options are unavailable; is this still in development?
              I could I install the hall sensor myself on the unpopulated board version if there's a firmware for it

              2- What is the USB-C for? Firmware update?

              Railcore II ZL

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              • oliofundefined
                oliof @fractalengineer
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                @fractalengineer I am not Jay, but I can offer some answers.

                1. support for the encoder, and so far no use case for an encoder on a board that is probably always being used for an extruder motor has been presented.
                2. THe USB-C is for initial firmware installation. The latest RRF beta can do updates by way of M997 IIRC

                <>RatRig V-Minion Fly Super5Pro RRF<> V-Core 3.1 IDEX k*****r <> RatRig V-Minion SKR 2 Marlin<>

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                • fractalengineerundefined
                  fractalengineer @oliof
                  last edited by

                  @oliof thank you for your answer,

                  Interesting I could totally see it used to detect extruder jams, or correcting for small shifts/stalls when extruding at the limits of the hot end envelope

                  Either way the UVP seem rather attractive already I'll be getting one regardless 🙂

                  Railcore II ZL

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                  • fractalengineerundefined
                    fractalengineer @fractalengineer
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                    Do you reckon there might be any issue running it at 29.4V?

                    I've checked the schematics, looks like the main 12V buck IC can take up to 40V, but the 2209 appears rated 29V and I'm not sure about the heater fet

                    I'm running fat Nema23 I need all the voltage I can have to get decent speeds lol

                    Railcore II ZL

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                    • jay_s_ukundefined
                      jay_s_uk @fractalengineer
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                      @fractalengineer I've asked the question

                      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                      • jay_s_ukundefined
                        jay_s_uk @fractalengineer
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                        @fractalengineer Flymaker (the designer) says 35V

                        Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                        • o_lampeundefined
                          o_lampe @fractalengineer
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                          @fractalengineer I wonder how good of a match the TMC2209 and a fat NEMA23 motor will be? You'd have to throttle down the current so much, that there's not much torque left. You'll probably end up in NEMA17-range but with much bigger rotor inertia...

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                          • fractalengineerundefined
                            fractalengineer @o_lampe
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                            @jay_s_uk Thank you very much, that does it for me!

                            @o_lampe Oh no the X/Y I'm running on TMC5160 from my Duet3MB6HC; I've found 65% of the rated 2.4A to be a good balance for my drivetrain.

                            Ideally I would have loved to try a board with a separate driver power rail to send them 48V but that would mean switching over to klipper

                            I have a whole couple threads on the forum if you want to learn more about running/tuning for big steppers

                            https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/18010/duet-3-stealthchop-2-tuning-for-nema23

                            https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/16297/help-needed-with-duet-3-6hc-tmc5160-stealthchop-config

                            Railcore II ZL

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                            • o_lampeundefined
                              o_lampe @fractalengineer
                              last edited by o_lampe

                              @fractalengineer said in Fly-RRF-36 RP2040 Based CAN-FD Toolboard:

                              send them 48V but that would mean switching over to klipper

                              On my CNC I'm using a Mellow Fly board with a split high-voltage driver rail (3x high voltage, 5x board supply voltage). It runs on RRF and allows mixing various stepper drivers. Not sure about it's CAN-FD abilities, but there are newer boards from Fly...

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                              • fractalengineerundefined
                                fractalengineer @o_lampe
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                                @o_lampe holy I might have to look into it then thanks for the heads up!

                                Railcore II ZL

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators @fractalengineer
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                                  @fractalengineer said in Fly-RRF-36 RP2040 Based CAN-FD Toolboard:

                                  Ideally I would have loved to try a board with a separate driver power rail to send them 48V but that would mean switching over to klipper

                                  Duet 3 MB6HC version 1.2 and later support 48V VIN.

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                  • jay_s_ukundefined
                                    jay_s_uk
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                                    @KenW yes, that right. It appears they've been preloading them with 3.5b4.
                                    I need to update the documentation on it

                                    Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                    • breedundefined
                                      breed
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                                      I was wondering about putting a few of these in a heated chamber. Any info on maximum chamber temp before it starts having issues? i dont see any max temp specs on github or on aliexpress page. Im wanting to run between 80C-100C.

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                                      • jay_s_ukundefined
                                        jay_s_uk @breed
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                                        @breed I would suggest its 85 degrees (without having to look at all the datasheets for each component).

                                        Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                        • breedundefined
                                          breed @jay_s_uk
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                                          @jay_s_uk That's what I was thinking too. Regular duet tool board is prob the same.

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                                          • jay_s_ukundefined
                                            jay_s_uk @breed
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                                            @breed it is

                                            Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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