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Mounting a radial fan on the Smart Effector

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    DADIY
    last edited by 25 Oct 2017, 06:50

    @number40fan:

    12 volt fans.

    Edit: The listing for the 12 volt fans on ebay has been discontinued. Search for 40x10 blower fan and you'll find both 12V and 24V.

    24 volt fans.

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2PCS-Gdstime-40mm-40x10mm-4CM-DC-24V-0-1A-Mini-Turbo-Blower-Cooling-Cooler-Fan-For/32799434002.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.quhQCp

    I did have to print some small pieces to attach to the effector and for the nozzle end. Then I just hot glued the fan to both pieces. Away from that computer with the files, but will try to remember to get them up.

    Ive bought from this seller on Aliexpress and after 40 days of no delivery doesn't want to give refund like their buyer protection, which sadly automatically closes at 40 days.

    EDIT: Seller did just refund after all.

    I did find them on ebay at the same price by searching for 24v Fan 4010S.

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      Juggeli
      last edited by 26 Oct 2017, 12:13

      I too have been experimenting with different blower fan mounts. I tried my design with 40x40x20mm and 45x45x10mm blower fans but these seem to be just a little too big to fit on the effector assembly and to not reduce the printing area. I just got the shipment for the Gdstime 40x40x10mm blowers and adapted my design for those. I already printed the parts but haven't yet had time to install those, so they might or might not fit 🙂 I'll post more pics after i try these.


      https://cad.onshape.com/documents/8ba77f2402fa7158a8d70539/w/3a248fe5905849418e449f95/e/1539f40d5e31d733d60ec655

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        hamel
        last edited by 26 Oct 2017, 23:16

        I'll give it a try. Looks like a nice design. Test printing now.

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          hamel
          last edited by 27 Oct 2017, 07:54

          https://cad.onshape.com/documents/e3ad7802741e48f7b333d901/w/d3234fc2aae1fdcd65eb5f59/e/b077e46d6fa1feab4594d930

          Had to move the ducts forward 10mm to get the air on the nozzle. Without it just blows 10mm behind the heater block. Works great and I love how it looks. Great design job. I'm reprinting now in transparent to see if it helps the LEDs reach.

          Thanks again.

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            Juggeli
            last edited by 27 Oct 2017, 14:24

            Oh yes good point. Thanks for that. The exit hole is aligned with the nozzle but the airflow itself goes behind the nozzle. Gotta reprint mine now. Also have to make a slight adjustment on where the fan exit meets the shroud

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              sungod3k
              last edited by 30 Oct 2017, 04:41

              Here is my contribution to that topic 😄 http://a360.co/2gUIpMk
              The same style of model cooling duct Ive used for a long time and the only disadvantage is that the view on the model is blocked by the torus.
              It uses a 50mm radial fan that unfortunately reaches over the effector and therefore has to be angled away. Not a problem on my machine but that increases the footprint of the print head quite a bit.
              The airflow on the opposite side of the fan is still noticeably weaker but at least the air angles downwards. I usually never use more the 60% power on the fan, 40% would probably be fine and also noise relevant.

              I haven't heard much about the "swirly" method of adding two fans. Would be interesting to see the exact airflow.

              http://www.42dimensions.de/
              https://printnewworlds.blogspot.com/

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                number40fan
                last edited by 11 Mar 2017, 02:42 3 Nov 2017, 02:42

                Two fans tucked under the effector. I had to relocate the plug for the hotend fan as well as the jumper for the LEDs to the top side.

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                  hamel
                  last edited by 8 Nov 2017, 22:38

                  https://cad.onshape.com/documents/e3ad7802741e48f7b333d901/w/d3234fc2aae1fdcd65eb5f59/e/b077e46d6fa1feab4594d930

                  I edited it to remove the front brace that blocked the LED light, and extended and moved the duct to fit a volcano heater block. I printed in clear to soften and spread the LED light. Test print worked great, printing a final now.

                  Do you mind if I post this to thingiverse to share the file? Of course I will credit you for the initial design.

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                    Hergonoway
                    last edited by 4 Dec 2017, 20:39

                    Really like the mount idea where it's attached to the side of the effector instead of strictly below.

                    Currently reworking an old first design for 40mm radial, I'll go with a 2 part pieces mount. Due to the size, I add issues with the duck part, finally I've designed it like a cap to put over the blower exit , I think it'll be easier to reprint only the cap in order to match needs.

                    I'll post it here once printed 🙂

                    Delta goes BrrrRRRRrrrrrRRRRrrr

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                      andino
                      last edited by 7 Dec 2017, 06:03

                      Just a couple of observations on the design for the underside fan mounts.

                      1. The cooling fan can not be changed to the back. The jumper and the connector for the cooling fan are there. As well as the heater connector. So the cooling fan and cover won't allow for it to go there.

                      2. When looking at the left side of the board, the Termistor connector is in the way and won't allow for connection. That thing has a pretty good drop on it. That's like a good 20mm from the top of the PCB to the bottom of the clip there.

                      I really believe that about the only place that you'll be able to put that type of fan is in the right side of the board. And even then you'll have to turn the cooling fan a smidge.

                      I may be looking at it all wrong too. But that is what I found when I printed them out and tried them.

                      Great work so far there guys.

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                        brandonh
                        last edited by 28 Dec 2017, 06:43

                        Here's my design, this time with a 40x20mm blower fan:
                        https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2732877

                        I'm happy that the design extends minimally beyond the effector triangle, but in terms of cooling efficiency, other fans/designs may be better. I've got some 40mm fans on order to try out too.

                        Comments welcome! Lots of nice designs on this thread.

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                          Jimborr
                          last edited by 28 Dec 2017, 13:29

                          I've also create a mount/nozzle for a 5015 blower fan. Not the prettiest there is, function before form?!
                          You might loose some printarea depending on your setup though.

                          https://i.imgur.com/YGceDSz.jpg?1

                          I haven't done any briding tests with it yet but it looks promising.

                          http://a360.co/2lfN2Qn mount
                          http://a360.co/2ChBnrn nozzle

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                            PlasticMetal
                            last edited by 1 Apr 2018, 01:47 4 Jan 2018, 01:37

                            I've been using this design with a 30mm fan for a couple months now, also based on the tusk idea. Sorry, no pix handy.

                            It mounts on the bottom side of the SE, under 2 magballs, so no extra hardware is needed. I need to trim it down some, possibly splitting it into 2 parts as others have done.

                            http://a360.co/2CD81as

                            I printed it in PETG, which gives it enough flex for the fan to snap in place. I printed it with the left side on the bed (as viewed when looking at the fan); I don't recall for sure, but it was likely with 0.20 to 0.30 layers (0.6 nozzle).

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                              RGN01
                              last edited by 1 Jul 2018, 16:35 7 Jan 2018, 16:19

                              I've just finished my new mount for the Smart Effector. It is designed for a 40 x 15mm radial fan.

                              https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2749324

                              Richard

                              (Edited to add photo)

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                              • dc42undefined
                                dc42 administrators
                                last edited by 7 Jan 2018, 17:07

                                Nice!

                                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                  Gone2Far
                                  last edited by 1 Aug 2018, 02:12 8 Jan 2018, 02:12

                                  If I might, I'd like to ask a related question. What is the minimum distance recommended for ducts or other protrusions above the nozzle tip? Don't want to crash into the bed or print.

                                  Thanks in advance!

                                  Original Prusa i3 MK2S
                                  Large Kossel Homebrew

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                                  • dc42undefined
                                    dc42 administrators
                                    last edited by 8 Jan 2018, 07:32

                                    1mm is normally sufficient, unless you need more to provide clearance from bed clips.

                                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                      Gone2Far
                                      last edited by 8 Jan 2018, 07:41

                                      Thanks again.

                                      Original Prusa i3 MK2S
                                      Large Kossel Homebrew

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                                      • RGN01undefined
                                        RGN01
                                        last edited by 10 Feb 2018, 20:10

                                        I've just added 2 further ducts - one for 5mm tusks and one for 6mm tusks. As they are attached with magnets it is easy to switch between the 4, 5 and 6mm versions to suit the job at hand.

                                        Richard

                                        @RGN01:

                                        I've just finished my new mount for the Smart Effector. It is designed for a 40 x 15mm radial fan.

                                        https://i.imgur.com/6KUpSin.jpg

                                        https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2749324

                                        Richard

                                        (Edited to add photo)

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                                        • DjDemonDundefined
                                          DjDemonD
                                          last edited by 2 Oct 2018, 20:53 10 Feb 2018, 20:51

                                          This was my solution

                                          Sunon 30mm blowers 5v but will pwm down from 12v if you limit them in your slicer to 30-40% (you can blast them at 12v for short periods such as bridging). I have found they work quite nicely with diffuse airflow but you print and bond ducts to them if you wish.

                                          No loss of print volume as they sit under the effector. Brackets I can put on thingiverse, just bond fans on with superglue/ca glue.

                                          I have them in my shop.

                                          Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
                                          www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
                                          PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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