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    Capricorn PTFE Tubing XS- Low Friction

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    • botundefined
      bot
      last edited by

      I would advise against that unless you can scientifically verify that to be true. Toxic fumes could be involved.

      *not actually a robot

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      • deckingmanundefined
        deckingman
        last edited by

        This is from captubes.com web site https://www.captubes.com/safety.html

        Seems like running it inside a hot end is not recommended, not is printing at higher temperatures.

        Ian
        https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
        https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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        • totalitarianundefined
          totalitarian
          last edited by

          Plenty of hotends have PTFE going to the nozzle. I'd rather have high temperature PTFE…

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          • deckingmanundefined
            deckingman
            last edited by

            Has anyone found a UK source for the TL version? I have short Bowden tubes so would prefer to sacrifice the smaller inner diameter of the XS version for the transparency that the TL version offers. I once had something go horribly wrong with one of my Diamond hot ends and had filament from one input back feeding up another. I only noticed it because I was using transparent PTFE. Plus it's easy to see at a glance that I've loaded the correct colour filament into the correct input.

            Ian
            https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
            https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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            • fmaundefined
              fma
              last edited by

              Well, I'm using regular PTFE with Lite6, and I don't go above 230°C. Looks like the Capricorn can go a little further. But OK, I won't try 300°C! 250°C is enough for a large choice of filaments.

              Frédéric

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              • elmoretundefined
                elmoret
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                @totalitarian:

                Another advantage of capricorn XS tube is it's rated to 340 deg c. I use it in an e3d lite6, no messing around with heat creep.

                Not true! It has a rated working temperature of 260C. Please do not attempt to use it (or any other PTFE tube) over 260C!

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                • deckingmanundefined
                  deckingman
                  last edited by

                  Another link to captube's site https://www.captubes.com/specs.html. They show the Melting Point as 300 deg C for the TL and UP TO 340 deg C for the XS version (so it'll melt somewhere below 340deg C). The melting point is a lot different than being "rated as".

                  Ian
                  https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                  https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                  • T3P3Tonyundefined
                    T3P3Tony administrators
                    last edited by

                    To emphasise this even more. PTFE has some very nasty thermal break down products:

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polytetrafluoroethylene#Safety

                    Do not use above the rated temperature!

                    www.duet3d.com

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                    • DADIYundefined
                      DADIY
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                      @totalitarian:

                      @DADIY:

                      If anyone is planning on using the capricorn tube with a Bondtech you might want to consider using the bowden adapter rather than the built in adapter, On my bondtech the tube was frequently pushed out of the built-in bowden connector (which damages the tube) but on the adapter its perfect.

                      I have a bondtech, can you show me what you mean?

                      I use this on the output end

                      http://ooznest.co.uk/image/cache/data/products/E3D-Online/Titan/Bowden-Adaptor-351x470.jpg

                      Yep that should work fine, thats optional on the bondtech for bowden tubes, its the other side that I had the issues with.

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                      • totalitarianundefined
                        totalitarian
                        last edited by

                        @deckingman:

                        Another link to captube's site https://www.captubes.com/specs.html. They show the Melting Point as 300 deg C for the TL and UP TO 340 deg C for the XS version (so it'll melt somewhere below 340deg C). The melting point is a lot different than being "rated as".

                        Normal PTFE has a melting point of 220 deg c (plenty of PLA will use that temp) and we get no issues…

                        Not trying to start a flame war, just pointing out that it has a higher resistance to temp and to date I have noticed no degradation at @290 deg c

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                        • deckingmanundefined
                          deckingman
                          last edited by

                          @totalitarian:

                          …...............
                          Normal PTFE has a melting point of 220 deg c (plenty of PLA will use that temp) and we get no issues...

                          Not trying to start a flame war, just pointing out that it has a higher resistance to temp and to date I have noticed no degradation at @290 deg c

                          I'm not going to argue as everything that needs to be said has been said (specifically check Tony's post about the nasty gases). I would however question where you found the melting point of PTFE to be 220 deg C. Every source I've looked states the melting point of PTFE to be 327 deg C.

                          Ian
                          https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                          https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                          • sigxcpuundefined
                            sigxcpu
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                            totalitarian, if you like getting sick or dying of poisonous gases, it is fine. But please don't spew life threatening misinformation on public forums. There are lots of guys tinkering with these toys, including kids.

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