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    • axiomundefined
      axiom
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      I have now achieved my first success in input shaping. The ringing in one direction has been reduced enormously...in the other direction it is still very expandable. Are there ways to reduce this ringing?
      can I add something else in the code?
      here is the code:

      M593 P"zvd" F49.4
      and here a screenshot of the current profile (previously measured with duet acelerator)
      Bildschirmfoto 2024-12-30 um 14.37.17.png

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      • jay_s_ukundefined
        jay_s_uk @axiom
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        @axiom what version of the firmware are you running?

        Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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        • axiomundefined
          axiom @jay_s_uk
          last edited by

          @jay_s_uk
          It is the newest 3.5.4 on a duet 2 wifi board, the acelerator is a duet v 0.2

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          • axiomundefined
            axiom @jay_s_uk
            last edited by

            @jay_s_uk sorry, i ve postet the wrong screenshot, here ist the right one:
            Bildschirmfoto 2024-12-30 um 18.07.17.png

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            • axiomundefined
              axiom @axiom
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              @axiom and here with shaper effect:
              Bildschirmfoto 2024-12-30 um 18.09.31.png

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              • jay_s_ukundefined
                jay_s_uk @axiom
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                @axiom I would suggest not worrying about input shaping in 3.5. it's been rewritten in 3.6 and performs a million times better than on 3.5.
                You could always try giving 3.6b2 a whirl or wait for 3.6b3

                Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators @axiom
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                  @axiom change the shaper type to ZVDD or ZVDD or EI2 or EI3 and set the centre frequency between the two peaks.

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                  • axiomundefined
                    axiom @dc42
                    last edited by

                    @dc42 That's interesting, and how can I write that into the config?

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                    • engikeneerundefined
                      engikeneer @axiom
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                      @axiom

                      M593 P"zvd" F49.4
                      

                      Becomes

                      M593 P"zvdd" F49.4
                      

                      Or

                      M593 P"ei2" F49.4
                      

                      Or whatever else. Its really that simple. As DC42 says, you may want to tweak the centre frequency (F parameter) so that it better covers both of your peaks.

                      Basically those other shapers have a wider frequency range than ZVD. You'll see that using the shaper tool when you switch between them!

                      E3D TC with D3Mini and Toolboards.
                      Home-built CoreXY, Duet Wifi, Chimera direct drive, 2x BMG, 300x300x300 build volume
                      i3 clone with a bunch of mods

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                      • axiomundefined
                        axiom @engikeneer
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                        @engikeneer Thank you very much, but how do I enter the second frequency?

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                        • engikeneerundefined
                          engikeneer @axiom
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                          @axiom you don't. The shapers cover a frequency range, so if you pick one that covers a wider range and set it to be in the middle of the two frequencies, it should help both. You can't input shape different axes with different frequencies

                          In the second image you posted, you can see frequency range the ZVD shaper is filtering as a green dashed line. Play with the others in the plugin and see what works.

                          E3D TC with D3Mini and Toolboards.
                          Home-built CoreXY, Duet Wifi, Chimera direct drive, 2x BMG, 300x300x300 build volume
                          i3 clone with a bunch of mods

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                          • axiomundefined
                            axiom @engikeneer
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                            @engikeneer thank you very much, then I will just print a few tests

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