Roto Toolboard, no extruder motor motion?

bug2k22

I'm unable to get the extruder motor to work when connected to the roto toolboard. I have connected it to an output on the 6HC and it works correctly.
The printer uses a 6HC (sbc mode) with a roto toolboard, micro swiss ng extruder with a revo heater/nozzle hotend and dyze design horizon for nozzle probing z height.
The extruder is connected to 'driver 0' on the toolboard, I have double checked the wiring A+ and B+ to the upper pins and A- and B- to the opposite lower pins. Checked the coil resistances to make sure I have the correct pairs wired.
Just updated the the latest firmware just in case.

Duet 3 MB6HC 	MB6HC 	3.6.0-beta.2
Duet 3 Expansion TOOL1RR
TOOL1RR 	3.6.0-beta.2
Duet Software Framework 	DSF 	3.6.0-beta.2
Duet Web Control 	DWC 	3.6.0-beta.2

config.g

G90                 ; absolute coordinates
M83                 ; relative extruder moves
M550 P"folgertech5" ; set hostname

G4 S2 ; wait for expansion boards to start

M575 P1 B57600 S1 ; configure PanelDue support

M569 P20.0 S1             ; driver 20.0 goes backwards (extruder 0)
M569 P0.1 S1             ; driver 0.1 goes forwards (X axis)
M569 P0.2 S0             ; driver 0.2 goes backwards (Y axis)
M569 P0.3 S0             ; driver 0.3 goes backwards (Y axis)
M569 P0.4 S1             ; driver 0.4 goes forwards (Z axis)
M569 P0.5 S0             ; driver 0.5 goes backwards (Z axis)

M906 X1400 Y1400 Z1200 E900 ; set motor driver currents

M584 X0.1 Y0.2:0.3 Z0.5:0.4 ; set axis mapping
M350 X16 Y16 Z16 I1         ; configure microstepping with interpolation

M92 X80 Y80 Z3200              ; configure steps per mm
M208 X0:248 Y0:270 Z-0.5:350   ; set minimum and maximum axis limits
M566 X900 Y900 Z60             ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
M203 X12000 Y12000 Z1200       ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
M201 X2200 Y2200 Z900          ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)

M556 S100 X-0.191   ; skew compensation obtained via califlower calibration

M584 E20.0   ; set extruder mapping
M350 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
M92 E400    ; configure steps per mm
M566 E600    ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
M203 E600   ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
M201 E1200   ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)

M558 P8 C"!20.io1.in" H1 ; the z probe is used for bed probing
G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z-0.25

M574 X2 P"!io1.in" S1 ; configure X axis endstop
M574 Y2 P"!io2.in" S1 ; configure Y axis endstop
M574 Z1 S2 ; z endstop

M671 X-100:400 Y150:150 S5.0 ; position of leadscrew/bed pivot point at left and right of X axis

M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" A"Heated Bed" T100000 B4066      ; configure sensor #0
M308 S1 P"20.temp0" Y"thermistor" A"Nozzle" T100000 B4267 C7.06e-8 ; configure sensor #1

M950 H0 C"out0" T0                                      ; create heater #0  heated bed
M143 H0 P0 T0 C0 S120 A0                                ; configure heater monitor #0 for heater #0
M307 H0 R0.206 K0.163:0.000 D3.20 E1.35 S1.00 B0        ; configure model of heater #0
M950 H1 C"20.out0" T1                                      ; create heater #1 hotend heater
M307 H1 R5.519 K0.447:0.587 D3.02 E1.35 S1.00 B0 V23.7
M143 H1 P0 T1 C0 S300 A0                                ; configure heater monitor #0 for heater #1

M140 P0 H0                                ; configure heated bed #0

M950 F0 C"out7"                           ; create fan #0
M106 P0 C"Part Cooling Fan" S0 L0 X1 B0.1 ; configure fan #0
M950 F1 C"20.out1"                           ; create fan #1
M106 P1 C"Hot End Fan" S0 B0.1 H1 T45     ; configure fan #1
M950 F3 C"out6" Q10000                     ; configure out4 to control electronics enclosure fan
M106 P3 C"Electronics Fan" S0 H-1
M950 F2 C"out9" Q25000                    ; configure out9 to control led lighting
M106 P2 C"Bed Lighting" S0 H-1

M563 P0 S"Print Head" D0 H1 F0 ; create tool #0
M568 P0 R0 S0                  ; set initial tool #0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

M591 D0 P3 C"20.io2.in" S1 R20:150  ; filament monitor

;M955 P0 C"spi.cs1+spi.cs0" I60  ; all wires connected to temp DB connector
;M593 P"zvddd" F36  S0.1  ; configure input shaping

M557 X4:244 Y0:260 S20:20 ; define grid for mesh bed compensation, note: these are the probe positions not the nozzle
G29 S2                    ; disable mesh bed compensation

I'm possibly missing something obvious, suggestions as to what I can test next?

jay_s_uk

@bug2k22 are you sure the CAN address for the roto toolboard is 20?
You can check in the object model
Or try sending M115 B20 you should get something back. If you don't, try M115 B121 as thats the default CAN address

bug2k22

@jay_s_uk said in Roto Toolboard, no extruder motor motion?:

M115 B20

Yes, the address is correct, the z probe and nozzle heater work.

M115 B20
Duet TOOL1RR firmware version 3.6.0-beta.2 (2024-11-12 08:12:15)

jay_s_uk

@bug2k22 nothing else I can see thats an issue with your config.
I'm assuming you have a tool selected and are either trying to extrude hot or have cold extrusion enabled?

bug2k22

@jay_s_uk yes, tool selected and hotend up to temperature.

I made up a new cable and wired the extruder motor directly to the 6HC, changed the address from '20.0' to the 6hc output and it works.

jay_s_uk

@bug2k22 can you post an M122 output for the roto toolboard after you've commanded an extrusion?
Also when and where did you purchase the toolboard?

bug2k22

@jay_s_uk Just powered everything back on, set the hotend temperature and set to extrude 20mm from the paneldue interface. Nothing appears to happen.

M122 B20
Diagnostics for board 20:
Duet TOOL1RR firmware version 3.6.0-beta.2 (2024-11-12 08:12:15)
Bootloader ID: SAME5x bootloader version 2.9 (2023-10-06)
All averaging filters OK
Never used RAM 170600, free system stack 198 words
Tasks: Move(3,nWait 7,0.0%,147) TMC(2,delaying,1.3%,31) HEAT(2,nWait 6,0.1%,114) CanAsync(5,nWait 4,0.0%,66) CanRecv(3,nWait 1,0.0%,73) CanClock(5,nWait 1,0.0%,64) ACCEL(3,nWait 6,0.0%,67) MAIN(1,running,96.5%,320) IDLE(0,ready,0.0%,29) AIN(2,nWait 2,2.1%,211), total 100.0%
Owned mutexes:
Last reset 00:03:32 ago, cause: power up
Last software reset data not available
Moves scheduled 1, hiccups 0 (0.00/0.00ms), segs 3, step errors 0 (types 0x0), maxLate 0 maxPrep 14, ebfmin 0.00 max 0.00
Peak sync jitter -4/4, peak Rx sync delay 181, resyncs 0/0, no timer interrupt scheduled, next step interrupt due in 4279184150 ticks, disabled
VIN voltage: min 23.9, current 24.0, max 24.0
MCU temperature: min 21.4C, current 21.6C, max 21.8C
Driver 0: pos 8000, 400.0 steps/mm, standstill, SG min 0, temp 20.1C, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 12, reads 28244, writes 1, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0
Last sensors broadcast 0x00000002 found 1 5 ticks ago, 0 ordering errs, loop time 0
CAN messages queued 1194, send timeouts 0, received 521, lost 0, ignored 0, errs 0, boc 0, free buffers 38, min 38, error reg 0
dup 0, oos 0/0/0/0, bm 0, wbm 0, rxMotionDelay 285, adv 37080/37080
Accelerometer: LIS2DW, status: 00
Inductive sensor: raw value 268435455, frequency 25.00MHz, current setting 13, amplitude error
Integrated filament monitor not present
I2C bus errors 0, naks 0, contentions 0, other errors 0
=== Filament sensors ===
Interrupt 5726621 to 0us, poll 2 to 172us
Driver 0: no data received, errs: frame 0 parity 0 ovrun 0 pol 0 ovdue 0

The board was purchased from E3D November 24
.

Phaedrux

Can you send M98 P"config.g" and report the results here?

bug2k22

@Phaedrux Entering that command to the console at the web interface produces no output.

07/01/2025, 22:13:36 	M98 P"config.g"
07/01/2025, 22:12:21 	M98 P"config.g"
07/01/2025, 20:53:30 	Connection established

Phaedrux

Do you experience the same issue on 3.5.4 stable release?

bug2k22

@Phaedrux I haven't run this configuration with 3.5.4. With the previous setup, upgrading to 3.5.4 broke the setup and the board firmware became corrupt and had to recover with a usb cable. So I upgraded to the latest beta on the board and sbc and all has been working well.

I presume it's not a simple task to downgrade both boards and all the sbc packages to a previous version?

jay_s_uk

@bug2k22 you should be able to run the following

M997 S2 F"stable-3.5"
M997 S2

and that should downgrade you to 3.5.4

bug2k22

@jay_s_uk Does that downgrade the boards and all sbc (pi5) packages too?

jay_s_uk

@bug2k22 yes, it should do
If it only downgrades DSF/DWC you can then issue M997 and M997 B20 to flash the firmware to the mainboard and toolboard

bug2k22

@jay_s_uk The second M997 S2 command did flash up a notice saying it was upgrading, but nothing seems to have changed, restarting the board shows the 3.6.0-beta.2 firmware on all boards and the sbc packages are still on 3.6.0-beta.2.
If I ssh in to the pi, I see that the duet3d.list is now showing "deb https://pkg.duet3d.com/ stable-3.5 armv7" so it is on the stable channel but nothing downgrades.

jay_s_uk

@bug2k22 try running M997 S2 V"3.5.4"

bug2k22

@jay_s_uk Thanks, that did complete the downgrade on all boards and the pi.

Duet 3 MB6HC 	MB6HC 	3.5.4
Duet 3 Expansion TOOL1RR
TOOL1RR 	3.5.4
Duet Software Framework 	DSF 	3.5.4
Duet Web Control 	DWC 	3.5.4

This has not changed the behaviour, still no movement on the extruder motor.
I have just double checked the cable from the toolboard to the motor and connectivity is fine on all pins.

jay_s_uk

@bug2k22 in that case i'll leave you back with @Phaedrux or @droftarts

droftarts

@bug2k22 Can you try moving your M906 (set motor current) to after the M584, for both the XYZ axes and E? See https://docs.duet3d.com/en/User_manual/Reference/Gcodes#m906-set-motor-currents

Order dependency
This command must be later in config.g than any M584 command.

Ian

bug2k22

@droftarts Thanks Ian, it's now working!

I didn't look at M906 as it seems to work with the extruder connected directly to the 6HC even with it early in the config. Something to remember for future installs.