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    jannisj
    last edited by 11 Apr 2018, 13:07

    Just saw this on aliexpress:

    http://s.aliexpress.com/aQRRvINb

    Seems the chinese has started cloning the duetwifi.
    Interesting to see they actually credit think3dprint3d and esher3d.
    They even print on the board that it’s not supported or endorsed by the creators.

    -Jannis

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      nickpgre
      last edited by 11 Apr 2018, 13:32

      To be exact:

      Based on the DuetWifi by Think3dPrint3d and Esher3d, see www.duet3d.com for the original DuetWifi information. This reproduction/modification is not endorsed or supported in any way by Think3dPrint3d or Escher3d".

      They did catch up quite fast to be honest ☹

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        Dougal1957 @nickpgre
        last edited by 11 Apr 2018, 13:44

        @nickpgre said in DuetWifi clones in the wild:

        To be exact:

        Based on the DuetWifi by Think3dPrint3d and Esher3d, see www.duet3d.com for the original DuetWifi information. This reproduction/modification is not endorsed or supported in any way by Think3dPrint3d or Escher3d".

        They did catch up quite fast to be honest ☹

        They have been around for a couple of months now and I think you will find they are not endorsed by the designers.

        I am sure DC or Tony will comment soon enough on them.

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          whosrdaddy
          last edited by whosrdaddy 4 Nov 2018, 13:47 11 Apr 2018, 13:44

          At least they are being "honest":

          Based on the DuetWifi by Think3dPrint3d and Esher3d, see www.duet3d.com for the original DuetWifi information. This reproduction/modification is not endorsed or supported in any way by Think3dPrint3d or Escher3d"

          The problem is that people are going to buy this (50€ price difference) and are going to end up here asking for support that they never paid for...

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            Dougal1957
            last edited by 11 Apr 2018, 13:46

            I Bet they haven't made them to the same specs either they have probably skimped on the amount of Copper in the PCB's

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              Qdeathstar
              last edited by 11 Apr 2018, 14:22

              Not a big fan of including a link to the counterfit product.....

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                T3P3Tony administrators
                last edited by T3P3Tony 4 Nov 2018, 15:03 11 Apr 2018, 14:52

                There are a number of variations on the clone (not going to validate or help by linking). The variation that has that notice on the PCB is complying with one of the terms of our open source license agreement:
                https://github.com/T3P3/Duet/blob/master/LICENSE

                Specifically:

                ..
                a. Attribution:
                Any reproductions or modifications of the DuetWifi hardware must contain the following attribution on the silkscreen or packaging:
                "Based on the DuetWifi by Think3dPrint3d and Esher3d, see www.duet3d.com for the original DuetWifi information. This reproduction/modification is not endorsed or supported in any way by Think3dPrint3d or Escher3d".
                ..

                The other clones do not comply with this term as they do not have the disclaimer. I have not personally checked any of the clones for correct component sourcing, assembly, PCB specification etc, buyer beware.

                On the wider point about cloning this is a complex discussion. My start point is that @AdrianBowyer opensourced the RepRap: if he had not done that I think the 3d printing/additive manufacturing landscape would be totally different now. Arguably many of the companies and individuals who participate in using and improving 3dprinting would not be involved. RepRap was a paradigm shift that lowered the barrier to entry for everybody, and everyone involved benefited, and continue to benefit from that. The benefit that everyone (including us) gets from being part of, contributing to, an opensource ecosystem is huge. That said the development of the Duet can only continue at the level and form that it does with an element of commercial viability.

                So what to do to continue to enable Duet and RRF development?

                • Encourage people to buy a board from us or our official resellers.
                • Report cloners to AliExpress or other retailers if the clones do not adhere to the terms of the license agreement.
                • Continue to support this community by helping out on the forum, with beta testing, by contributing to firmware development or documentation as you can.
                • Continue to blog, vlog, tweet, post, Instagram, etc about the awesome printers, CNC machines etc you are building with Duet.

                www.duet3d.com

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                  whosrdaddy
                  last edited by 11 Apr 2018, 15:26

                  Report cloners to AliExpress or other retailers if the clones do not adhere to the terms of the license agreement.

                  I did report the non compliant clone to AliExpress and they did nothing about it 😞

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                    T3P3Tony administrators @whosrdaddy
                    last edited by 11 Apr 2018, 15:41

                    @whosrdaddy fair enough, maybe a drum beat of regular reports would make a difference. I have no idea.

                    www.duet3d.com

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                      Mike
                      last edited by 11 Apr 2018, 20:04

                      And what's that solder blob on they picture the provide there? Isn't it where the fuse is supposed to be?

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                        tjb1 @Mike
                        last edited by 12 Apr 2018, 11:37

                        @mike said in DuetWifi clones in the wild:

                        And what's that solder blob on they picture the provide there? Isn't it where the fuse is supposed to be?

                        Likely a copy of v1.02 which doesn't have the blade fuse.

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                          Stealthy_TT
                          last edited by 17 Apr 2018, 02:32

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