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    deckingman
    last edited by 4 Sept 2016, 18:40

    @bot:

    If you just want the third filament to stay put, can you not just arrange a way to fix the filament in place until you get the duexn?

    I thought of that but the problem with the Diamond hot end is that normal retraction doesn't work- - all that happens is that it draws filament from an unused input rather than from the nozzle. Therefore, I have to use firmware retraction to retract all 3 filaments simultaneously. So just wedging some filament in place will effectively give me no retraction. The other thing that happens is that, if you don't extrude any filament from one of the inputs for a long time, they become blocked at the heat sink. I suspect it's heat creep, due to heating the filament but not extruding any. Or maybe it's pressure on the "in use" input pushing melted filament back up the "unused" input.

    Ian
    https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
    https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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      deckingman
      last edited by 4 Sept 2016, 18:43

      @dc42:

      The other possibility would be to make a small converter board or even just a cable to convert the Duet WiFi expansion connector pinout to the DueX4 pinout.

      Er, yes but I don't have a DueX4.

      Ian
      https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
      https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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        T3P3Tony administrators
        last edited by 4 Sept 2016, 19:21

        Ian

        No worries, I will get the level shifter ordered and put one together. It wont be mega expensive.

        Cheers

        Tony

        www.duet3d.com

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          BMMal
          last edited by 28 Sept 2016, 23:41

          Any eta on when a Duet Wifi expansion board will be ready for order? I have my Duet Wifi but have not installed it yet as I need to have at least 3 extruders. I would rather not deal with a temporary solution as I kind of have my Azteeg X3 Pro working alright but Marlin is frustrating me. The Atmel processor just isn't fast enough to do everything it should.

          I think I will be taking the machine offline to switch from long bowden systems to Flex3Drives fairly soon. While I do that would be a good opportunity for me to swap the Duet Wifi and expansion boards in.

          Also, really glad that the Wifi and expansion board have endstops for extruders. Filament present sensor has been one of my planned features for my machine!

          Duet Ethernet - Most likely the most recent Edge firmware
          Duet X5
          7" Panel Due V2
          Cartesian, 4 Nozzles with Flex3Drives, Heated Chamber, Simple Switch Filament Sensing

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            T3P3Tony administrators
            last edited by 29 Sept 2016, 15:19

            We are working on it right now but I can't give a definite ETA yet. I should have the prototypes ordered next week at which point I will have more clarity and will post an update.

            www.duet3d.com

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              BMMal
              last edited by 29 Sept 2016, 15:53

              @T3P3Tony:

              We are working on it right now but I can't give a definite ETA yet. I should have the prototypes ordered next week at which point I will have more clarity and will post an update.

              Awesome to hear. Thanks for the insight!

              Duet Ethernet - Most likely the most recent Edge firmware
              Duet X5
              7" Panel Due V2
              Cartesian, 4 Nozzles with Flex3Drives, Heated Chamber, Simple Switch Filament Sensing

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                dc42 administrators
                last edited by 1 Oct 2016, 10:24

                One of the features we are considering for the DueX2/DueX5 is an on-board switching regulator to provide a 12V supply when Vin is higher (typically 24V). This would facilitate using 12V fans and 12V LED strips. It would add about £5 to the retail price of the board. Those of you who are interested in expansion boards, do you think this is a good idea, or not worth the extra cost?

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                  deckingman
                  last edited by 1 Oct 2016, 12:25

                  @dc42:

                  One of the features we are considering for the DueX2/DueX5 is an on-board switching regulator to provide a 12V supply when Vin is higher (typically 24V). This would facilitate using 12V fans and 12V LED strips. It would add about £5 to the retail price of the board. Those of you who are interested in expansion boards, do you think this is a good idea, or not worth the extra cost?

                  My twopence worth - excellent idea. Cheaper than a 24v DC to 12V DC converter and the wiring will be much more elegant. It gives users the flexibility to source fans/led lights in both 12 or 24v versions so much more choice. I'd be happy to pay the fiver.

                  Ian
                  https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                  https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                    Dougal1957
                    last edited by 1 Oct 2016, 12:32

                    @deckingman:

                    @dc42:

                    One of the features we are considering for the DueX2/DueX5 is an on-board switching regulator to provide a 12V supply when Vin is higher (typically 24V). This would facilitate using 12V fans and 12V LED strips. It would add about £5 to the retail price of the board. Those of you who are interested in expansion boards, do you think this is a good idea, or not worth the extra cost?

                    My twopence worth - excellent idea. Cheaper than a 24v DC to 12V DC converter and the wiring will be much more elegant. It gives users the flexibility to source fans/led lights in both 12 or 24v versions so much more choice. I'd be happy to pay the fiver.

                    I also agree.

                    Doug

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                      bot
                      last edited by 1 Oct 2016, 18:26

                      @Dougal1957:

                      @deckingman:

                      @dc42:

                      One of the features we are considering for the DueX2/DueX5 is an on-board switching regulator to provide a 12V supply when Vin is higher (typically 24V). This would facilitate using 12V fans and 12V LED strips. It would add about £5 to the retail price of the board. Those of you who are interested in expansion boards, do you think this is a good idea, or not worth the extra cost?

                      My twopence worth - excellent idea. Cheaper than a 24v DC to 12V DC converter and the wiring will be much more elegant. It gives users the flexibility to source fans/led lights in both 12 or 24v versions so much more choice. I'd be happy to pay the fiver.

                      I also agree.

                      Doug

                      This would be super delightful.

                      *not actually a robot

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                        Adamfilip
                        last edited by 18 Oct 2016, 16:01

                        @dc42:

                        One of the features we are considering for the DueX2/DueX5 is an on-board switching regulator to provide a 12V supply when Vin is higher (typically 24V). This would facilitate using 12V fans and 12V LED strips. It would add about £5 to the retail price of the board. Those of you who are interested in expansion boards, do you think this is a good idea, or not worth the extra cost?

                        Make it so!

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                          timcurtis67
                          last edited by 18 Oct 2016, 17:51

                          @Adamfilip:

                          @dc42:

                          One of the features we are considering for the DueX2/DueX5 is an on-board switching regulator to provide a 12V supply when Vin is higher (typically 24V). This would facilitate using 12V fans and 12V LED strips. It would add about £5 to the retail price of the board. Those of you who are interested in expansion boards, do you think this is a good idea, or not worth the extra cost?

                          Make it so!

                          2X

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                            dc42 administrators
                            last edited by 18 Oct 2016, 20:00

                            This feature has been included in the prototypes that are being manufactured.

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                              jmjcoke
                              last edited by 18 Oct 2016, 20:50

                              Just a small cheap board with 10 pin dual row IDC plugs for each axis. In the future I would like to see a Duet Wifi version that is setup for all the axis outputs go to IDC plugs for external drives for bigger machines and integrated stepper motors where the drive is on the motor.

                              Joshua Coke

                              Trick Laser Metal Max with Smart Effector
                              Duet Wifi
                              Zesty Nimble
                              Mosaic Pallette+
                              At work
                              Renishaw AM250/400/ RenAM500M/500Q Powder Bed Fusion (Metal 3D Printers)

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                                danzca6
                                last edited by 19 Oct 2016, 18:11

                                The 12V conversion to allow for LED and fans when running a 24V printer is awesome. I wish I saw this thread sooner because I would have suggested maybe a CAT5 internet jack to be able to plug in the Duet or use the Wifi feature. Bit of best of both worlds. Not sure if that would even be possible, but would have been a "nice to have". I also love the idea of the Duex2. I don't know if I would have used all 5 extras, but with multi extrusion becoming more popular I think the need for extra 5 can be more of a reality. Since the PCB will be the same on the Duex2, how hard would it be to add more divers to the board (for a common man) if at all possible.

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                                  T3P3Tony administrators
                                  last edited by 19 Oct 2016, 18:23

                                  jmjcoke - a simple breakout board is a request I am tracking - just not sure how popular it would be.

                                  danzca6 - Ethernet would not really be feasible on the expansion board without a radical redesign of how the hardware works that would end up with a sub optimal solution. Regarding adding the other components to the Duex2 you would need to be comfortable with working with surface mount components and have a appropriate re-work station, its certainly not impossible but would not be something I would suggest as a first project for somebody just getting into that sort of electronics work. You would, however, be able to connect an external driver relatively simply.

                                  www.duet3d.com

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                                    DuetUser
                                    last edited by 19 Oct 2016, 21:46

                                    One of our printers is quite large and we decided to use M542 drivers for 3Nm nema24 Z axis motors.
                                    The printer works on RUMBA (Atmega 2560) electronics by RepRapDiscount and we just connected M542 instead of stepsticks.
                                    They work very well.
                                    Another thing is we tried to use servos with DCS 303 drivers from leadshine. It was a great learning opportunity although we dropped it for a while because of some positioning inaccuracies probably due to signal duration differences.

                                    So rounding things up…DUEX is a very special thing used to build extraordinary machines and force them to tackle impossible tasks.
                                    It could have some potential for some of us to have the STEP and DIR pins broken out which not neccessary is a hard thing to do depending on development stage. Probably it's late to bring it up or it already had been but I found the forum a few days ago just to be staggered with how dunamic it is and put this idea.

                                    External drivers possibility all the way.

                                    peter

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