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    • Torroundefined
      Torro
      last edited by

      Hi there,

      i got it working. but not with drive 2&4. U didn´t move. tried a few things, no luck. So i changed it to 2&3 for Z and 4 for the extruder. worked immediately. i don´t know why, but it´s ok. maybe drive 4 has to be the V axis?

      now, there is one small issue. when i power on the printer, i have to home Z first. when i try to home X or Y before, nothing happens???
      what could that be?

      config.g and homing files:

      homez
      G91 ; relative positioning

      M584 Z2 U3 P4 ; split z control

      G1 S1 Z-350 U-350 F2000
      G1 Z5 U5 F400
      G1 S1 Z-10 U-10
      M584 Z2:3 P3 ; combine Z
      G90
      G92 Z0

      homey
      G91 ; relative positioning
      G1 S1 Y-300 F5000 ; move quickly to Y axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
      G1 Y5 F3600 ; go back a few mm
      G1 S1 Y-206 F360 ; move slowly to Y axis endstop once more (second pass)
      G90 ; absolute positioning

      homex
      G91 ; relative positioning
      G1 S1 X-300 F5000 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
      G1 X5 F360 ; go back a few mm
      G1 S1 X-206 F360 ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass)
      G90 ; absolute positioning

      homeall
      G91 ; relative positioning
      G1 S1 X-300 Y-300 F5000 ; move quickly to X or Y endstop and stop there (first pass)
      G1 S1 X-300
      G1 S1 Y-300
      G1 X10 Y10 F6000 ; go back a few mm
      G1 S1 X-20 F360 ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass)
      G1 S1 Y-20 ; then move slowly to Y axis endstop
      M98 Phomez.g

      config.g
      ; Drives
      M569 P0 S1 ; Drive 0 goes forwards
      M569 P1 S1 ; Drive 1 goes forwards
      M569 P2 S1 ; Drive 2 goes forwards Z @ Xmax
      M569 P3 S1 ; Drive 3 goes forwards Z @ Xmin
      M569 P4 S1 ; Drive 4 goes forwards
      M584 X0 Y1 Z2:3 U3 E4 P3 ; two Z motors connected to driver outputs Z and E0 Hide U
      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 U16 E16 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
      M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z160 U160 E420.00 ; Set steps per mm
      M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 U12.00 E120.00 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
      M203 X30000.00 Y30000.00 Z4000.00 U4000.00 E4000.00 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
      M201 X1500.00 Y1500.00 Z500.00 U500.00 E10000.00 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
      M906 X800.00 Y800.00 Z800.00 U800.00 E800.00 I40 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
      M84 S3000 ; Set idle timeout

      ; Axis Limits
      M208 X0 Y-1 Z0 S1 ; Set axis minima
      M208 X240 Y260 Z288 S0 ; Set axis maxima

      ; Endstops
      M574 X1 Y1 S0 ; Set active high endstops
      M574 Z1 U1 S1

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      • aidarundefined
        aidar @Torro
        last edited by

        @torro said in 2 Z motors, to endstops:

        when i power on the printer, i have to home Z first. when i try to home X or Y before, nothing happens???

        This sounds like your Z motor is connected to X (drive 0) connector. If you home Z, what DWC shows? Homed X i guess.

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        • Torroundefined
          Torro
          last edited by

          No, all is running correct AFTER i homed Z.
          nothing moves if Z is not homed.

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          • aidarundefined
            aidar
            last edited by

            Please post your full config.g as well as config-override.g, (those on duet sd card, not somewhere in your computer, to eliminate possibilty that your backup ones in computer are not up to date)

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            • Torroundefined
              Torro
              last edited by

              Hi,

              no config-override in the system.

              ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 1.21)
              ; executed by the firmware on start-up
              ;
              ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2 on Sat Nov 24 2018 10:45:17 GMT+0100 (Mitteleuropäische Normalzeit)

              ; General preferences
              M80
              G90 ; Send absolute coordinates...
              M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves

              M667 S1 ; Select CoreXY mode

              ; Network
              M550 P"MKC" ; Set machine name
              M552 S1 ; Enable network
              M586 P0 S1 ; Enable HTTP
              M586 P1 S0 ; Disable FTP
              M586 P2 S0 ; Disable Telnet

              ; Specials

              M307 H2 A-1 C-1 D-1 ; disable the heater functionality

              ; Drives
              M569 P0 S1 ; Drive 0 goes forwards
              M569 P1 S1 ; Drive 1 goes forwards
              M569 P2 S1 ; Drive 2 goes forwards Z @ Xmin
              M569 P3 S1 ; Drive 3 goes forwards
              M569 P4 S1 ; Drive 4 goes forwards Z @ Xmax
              M584 X0 Y1 Z2:3 U3 E4 P3 ; two Z motors connected to driver outputs Z and E1 Hide U
              M350 X16 Y16 Z16 U16 E16 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
              M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z160 U160 E420.00 ; Set steps per mm
              M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 U12.00 E120.00 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
              M203 X30000.00 Y30000.00 Z4000.00 U4000.00 E4000.00 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
              M201 X1500.00 Y1500.00 Z500.00 U500.00 E10000.00 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
              M906 X800.00 Y800.00 Z800.00 U800.00 E800.00 I40 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
              M84 S3000 ; Set idle timeout

              ; Axis Limits
              M208 X0 Y-1 Z0 S1 ; Set axis minima
              M208 X240 Y260 Z288 S0 ; Set axis maxima

              ; Endstops
              M574 X1 Y1 S0 ; Set active high endstops
              M574 Z1 U1 S1

              ; Z-Probe
              ;M558 P1 H5 F120 T6000 ; Disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed;
              ;G31 P500 X0 Y50 Z1.45
              ;M557 X20:220 Y70:240 S20 ; Define mesh grid

              ; Heaters
              M305 P0 T100000 B4388 C7.060000e-8 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
              M143 H0 S130 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
              M305 P1 T100000 B4388 C7.060000e-8 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
              M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
              M307 H1 A438.2 C134.9 D3.9 B0

              ; Fans
              M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
              M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
              M106 P2 T45:55 H100:101:102 ; Set fan 2 value,
              M912 P0 S-3,5

              ; Tools
              M563 P0 D0 H1 ; Define tool 0
              G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
              G10 P0 R0 S0 ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

              ; Automatic power saving
              M911 S10 R11 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; Set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss

              ; Custom settings are not configured

              ;

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              • aidarundefined
                aidar
                last edited by

                Ok, config seems to be ok. So what exactly happens if you send G28 from DWC gcode console? If nothing moves, there should be some response message from duet why nothing moves. What that message says?

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                • Torroundefined
                  Torro
                  last edited by

                  Just started a print...

                  yesterday, there was no message from DWC.
                  A click on "home all" did nothing, but i couldn´t move the motors by hand anymore.

                  will test G28 asap

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                  • Torroundefined
                    Torro
                    last edited by

                    after powering up the printer, a single G28 without any parameter does nothing. the circle in the "send" button spins and spins and spins. when i click "emergency stop", a message "homing failed" appears.

                    then i homed only Z. works. after that, G28 works without any issue, same as the button "homeall"

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                    • aidarundefined
                      aidar
                      last edited by

                      That is odd. You are not supposed to be able home Z at all before X and Y are not homed. What firmware version are you using and what version of DWC?

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                      • Torroundefined
                        Torro
                        last edited by

                        Duet Web Control 2.0.0-RC3

                        Electronics: Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
                        Firmware: RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet 2.02(RTOS) (2018-12-24b1)
                        Duet WiFi Server Version: 1.22

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator @Torro
                          last edited by

                          @torro said in 2 Z motors, to endstops:

                          homeall
                          G91 ; relative positioning
                          G1 S1 X-300 Y-300 F5000 ; move quickly to X or Y endstop and stop there (first pass)
                          G1 S1 X-300
                          G1 S1 Y-300
                          G1 X10 Y10 F6000 ; go back a few mm
                          G1 S1 X-20 F360 ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass)
                          G1 S1 Y-20 ; then move slowly to Y axis endstop
                          M98 Phomez.g

                          Try changing M98 Phomez.g to G28 Z

                          Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                          • Torroundefined
                            Torro
                            last edited by

                            Ok. I will try.

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                            • Torroundefined
                              Torro
                              last edited by

                              I didn't test it yet, but i have an idea, i could put the home Z order on top in the first line. I Guess it works... 🙂

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                              • thweundefined
                                thwe
                                last edited by thwe

                                On my CoreXY also with 2 Z-Motors and 2 Endstops (1 for Z and 1 for U - Drive 2 and 3) i have to home Z also at first.

                                Only for example - without any garanty - see my homeall.g:

                                ; ##############  homeall.g -> called to home all axes  ##############
                                
                                M98 Phomez.g                 ; X homing
                                
                                M98 Phomex.g                 ; Y homing
                                
                                M98 Phomey.g                 ; Z homing
                                
                                G90
                                
                                
                                ; #################    checking trigger height + Z null adjusting    #################
                                G1 X144 Y150 F12000
                                G1 Z20 F1800
                                G1 Z15 F1200
                                G1 Z10 F600
                                T0
                                G30                            ; Probe the bed at the current XY position, set the Z coordinate to the probe trigger height
                                G4 P200
                                G1 Z50 F1800
                                
                                ; END OF FILE
                                

                                and my homez.g:

                                ; ##############  homez.g -> called to home the Z axis  ##############
                                
                                G91                         ; relative positioning
                                
                                M584 Z2 U3 P4               ; Split Z into 2 (Z+U)
                                
                                G1 S1 Z999 U999 F600        ; Move the bed down in the Z direction. S1 to stop if endstop is triggered
                                G1 S2 Z-3 U-3 F600          ; Move the bed up 3mm in the -Z direction, ignore if axis are not homed
                                G1 S1 Z9 U9 F200            ; Move slowly in the +Z direction again to stop exactly at the homing switch
                                M400                        ; Wait for current moves to finish
                                
                                G4 P100
                                G1 S2 Z0.00 U0.00 F200      ; Compensation the limit switch from z-axis drive 2 (!!can be adjusted here!!)
                                G4 P100
                                
                                M584 Z2:3 P3                ; Join U to Z again
                                G4 P100
                                
                                G92 Z282.00                 ; set position of Z relativ to the bed (!!must be adjusted here!!)
                                
                                G90                         ; Back to absolute mode
                                
                                G1 S2 Z270 F900
                                ; End of file
                                

                                Thomas

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                                • Torroundefined
                                  Torro
                                  last edited by

                                  Good to know. Thanks!

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                                  • Torroundefined
                                    Torro @Phaedrux
                                    last edited by

                                    @phaedrux said in 2 Z motors, to endstops:

                                    @torro said in 2 Z motors, to endstops:

                                    homeall
                                    G91 ; relative positioning
                                    G1 S1 X-300 Y-300 F5000 ; move quickly to X or Y endstop and stop there (first pass)
                                    G1 S1 X-300
                                    G1 S1 Y-300
                                    G1 X10 Y10 F6000 ; go back a few mm
                                    G1 S1 X-20 F360 ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass)
                                    G1 S1 Y-20 ; then move slowly to Y axis endstop
                                    M98 Phomez.g

                                    Try changing M98 Phomez.g to G28 Z

                                    Same behaviour. I just put the m98 phomez. G in the first line of homeall.g

                                    Now it works as expected

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