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    • pro3dundefined
      pro3d @Phaedrux
      last edited by

      @phaedrux

      I am struggling to get the plugin activated. I did not find it in marketplace but downloaded it from a um forum post - Is is jsut to drop in the plugin folder?

      [0_1549572902627_PrinterSettingsPlugin.curaplugin](Uploading 100%)

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator
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        I think you double click on the plugin file to install it? I can't remember, but I'm pretty sure it's available in the market place now. I'll have to double check. There should be some installation instructions where you downloaded it from.

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        • pro3dundefined
          pro3d
          last edited by

          I might have been a little early to celebrate. Guess its time to look for component trouble or filament issue

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
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            Is the extruder idler tensioned properly?

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            • pro3dundefined
              pro3d @Phaedrux
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              @phaedrux

              I was thinking NO so I did re-tension it now so it extrudes fine at 30mms without skipping/ripping the filament and re printed the part above so no luck there

              looks to hot and this is the suppliers suggestions for everything. I think speed and temp look to high but wanted to test their settings /add.North

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              • grizewaldundefined
                grizewald @dc42
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                @dc42 said in Duet/RRF Big printing problems:

                @pro3d, I'm glad you are making progress. It sounds that the online configurator is setting the incorrect thermistor B value when you choose the Semitec thermistor. I'm sorry this has caused you so much trouble. We'll get it fixed.

                @dc42 Please can you also update the text at: https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/ConfiguringRepRapFirmwareCartesianPrinter#Section_Heater_and_thermistor_section

                This states: "The Semitec 104GT-2 thermistor supplied with the E3Dv6 hot end has a quoted B value of 4267, but the actual value over 25C to 220C is 4388."

                Given that text, and what the online configurator suggested, that's what I'm using.

                I'm chasing similar problems to pro3d as well, also on a CoreXY with a 700mm long Bowden tube (Capricorn) fed via a Bondtech BMG extruder. While I am getting there, I'm still seeing what look like over-extrusions at the layer changes, so I'm following this thread with interest.

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators @grizewald
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                  @grizewald said in Duet/RRF Big printing problems:

                  @dc42 Please can you also update the text at: https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/ConfiguringRepRapFirmwareCartesianPrinter#Section_Heater_and_thermistor_section
                  This states: "The Semitec 104GT-2 thermistor supplied with the E3Dv6 hot end has a quoted B value of 4267, but the actual value over 25C to 220C is 4388."

                  Thanks, I've updated it.

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                  • pro3dundefined
                    pro3d @Phaedrux
                    last edited by pro3d

                    @phaedrux

                    Apparently the machine settings plugin does not support all cura versions and at this point I cant get Cura back to its regular state... lol

                    No luck finding the firmware retraction setting I am sorry

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator @pro3d
                      last edited by

                      @pro3d the other option to test firmware retraction more easily would be to use Slic3r. But I don't think firmware retraction will solve anything for you. It just makes it easier to test retraction settings while a print is running.

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                      • pro3dundefined
                        pro3d
                        last edited by

                        Updates on my troubleshooting

                        I added the ramps board to see what it could do with my normal settings as have been working for ages. It did not perform well so I have some issues in the component department

                        However Marlin do seam to handle retractions better as stringing part is almost gone with same settings. Is this due to absolute extrusion maybe?

                        Here are the last models in various temp/flow and speed and the two Marlin prints in the middle - Pretty much the same issue so filament bad or hotend / extruder/ thermistor trouble I guess

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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators
                          last edited by

                          The stringing may be a temperature issue. Have you tried reducing extrusion temperature?

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                          • pro3dundefined
                            pro3d @dc42
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                            @dc42
                            Yes I have tried so many variations of temp, flow and speed, retraction I think it is the filament or some component. I have tuned one roll of petg now.... Currently mailing with add.north for advice on filament

                            But will absolute extrusions be better for the long bowden you think? Retraction seams better

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators
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                              There shouldn't be any difference between absolute and relative extrusion. Both get converted to the same steps.

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                              • pro3dundefined
                                pro3d
                                last edited by pro3d

                                So troubleshooting my way through this extrusion/retraction problems

                                • It now looks much better after changing the complete hotend. I did not expect this as it was a brand new e3d V6 now replaced with a new clown and I need to test other filaments but it looks right now

                                Left: Befor change of hotend - Right: After change
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                                • pro3dundefined
                                  pro3d @pro3d
                                  last edited by pro3d

                                  More tests - This will do just fine. Not sure if we can get rid of the seam more than moving it to the inside

                                  this was with 0.2 PA enabled

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                                  Before:
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