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    • Danalundefined
      Danal @Magnusjen
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      @magnusjen said in Attempt to move motors when VIN is not in range:

      @danal Yes still shows 5V, I even pulled out the fans just for ease of work with the board.

      With USB UNPLUGGED, and 24V reading across the pins on the green connector that is circled, which lights are on?

      0_1552492303271_dfc8a2f0-2797-4e7b-8232-174853ffa40d-image.png

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      • Magnusjenundefined
        Magnusjen @Danal
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        @danal
        Power in is in the correct spot Check
        Power reading across reads as 24V check
        USB not plugged in Check
        Wifi Blue light check
        3.3V green light check
        5V red light check
        VIN blue light check
        Z,Y, X stop red lights check

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        • Danalundefined
          Danal
          last edited by

          Interesting....

          Just as a final check of inputs and fuses, take a VOLTAGE reading across the two red circles (heater E0 VIN and ground on the big green VIN itself), with USB unplugged and 24V in on.

          Should read 24V. Probably will. Still, with that confirmation, we can move on.

          0_1552492985411_Check VIN.PNG

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          • Magnusjenundefined
            Magnusjen @Danal
            last edited by

            @danal Reads 24V indeed mate 😕

            I really appreciates the help! It happend quite sudden, I had the motors working and homed and when I had been working on wiring the fans (with the board turned off) it started with that error.

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            • Danalundefined
              Danal
              last edited by Danal

              EDIT: My memory failed me. I've removed the illustration so as not to lead anyone astray.

              The three pin connector nearest the big green VIN power in screw terminals should be blank.

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              • Magnusjenundefined
                Magnusjen @Danal
                last edited by

                @danal jumper??? There never was a jumper there on my board.

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                • Danalundefined
                  Danal @Magnusjen
                  last edited by

                  @magnusjen said in Attempt to move motors when VIN is not in range:

                  @danal jumper??? There never was a jumper there on my board.

                  Yeah, just realized, I was thinking of a different jumper. They are correct the way you describe, empty.

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                  • Magnusjenundefined
                    Magnusjen @Danal
                    last edited by

                    @danal Good timing, I was just about to put one on hehe

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                    • Danalundefined
                      Danal
                      last edited by

                      Summary:

                      • 3.3V is good, or you couldn't talk to the board (WiFi, CPU, etc, would be dead).

                      We've verified with lights and voltage readings that :

                      • VIN is good
                      • Fuses are good
                      • VIN is getting to various points around the board.

                      Which means I'm stumped as to why DWC is saying "insufficient voltage". If I think of anything, I will post, and meanwhile the Duet/Escher guys will be online in a few hours.

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                      • Magnusjenundefined
                        Magnusjen @Danal
                        last edited by

                        @danal Thanks for the help so far bud! I will go and run some errands while I wait for them to be online.. I am stumped myself, but I am happy this forum exists! I really want the board to work it seems so great.

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                        • Magnusjenundefined
                          Magnusjen
                          last edited by Magnusjen

                          Just a random update, to those following along.. I checked the voltage from the PWN in (which comes in at 24V still) against the heatbed, the heatbed also says 24V... I checked against an always on fan pin and got a tiny spark... I will just stop checking voltage for a little while.

                          The console still shows 5V.. I have tried unplugging everything from the board (why? Why not) and the console still shows 5V. I am going slightly insane here.

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                          • Magnusjenundefined
                            Magnusjen
                            last edited by

                            So I noticed something fun... It actually reads as 0.5 V in the web interface, which makes even less sense to me. I haven't touched any of the jumpers, they are the way I got them.

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                            • Magnusjenundefined
                              Magnusjen
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                              Status on the Issue
                              I am using a DUET 2 WIFI 1.03 with newest firmware (non-beta) - on an Ender 3 pro, the power supply is the Ender 3 Pros. The fans are the Ender 3 stock fans which are all 24V. I used hooked these up to the board, but did several wrong wirings ( I think), I even tried to hook up a 5V fan without changing the jumper nothing happend. After this the motors were still working. I turned the board off and tried to rewire the fans that did not work, the next day I turn the board on and I get the error and DWC showing 0.5 V.

                              The issue:
                              When I try to move the motors it says "Attempt to move motors when VIN is not in range"

                              DWC shows 0.5 V in VIN
                              I have tested all fuses they show zero ohm
                              I have measured power in and it shows 24 V
                              I have measured from power to heatbed and it shows 24V
                              I have measured from power to hotend and it shows 24V
                              Wifi Blue light check
                              3.3V green light check
                              5V red light check
                              VIN blue light check
                              Z,Y, X stop red lights check
                              I have checked that VIN is tight (it is tight..)
                              All jumpers are in "stock" positions

                              So... Thats about where we are at... Help me DUET forum, you are my only hope... I just wanna know if it is dead and I have to try again 😞

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                              • Magnusjenundefined
                                Magnusjen
                                last edited by Magnusjen

                                Just got home from work (will just do continues updates here in the hope that someone will see and have an idea/using it as a log in case someone wants to chim in).

                                I have done a "visual" inspection of the board, everything seems to be in order nothing that looks burned or shorted.

                                The DWC still reports 0.5 V, but I can activate both hotend and heatbed.. But not my motors. So power is clearly going somewhere but not to the motors.

                                I will look into if the fans can work - Ah... there we might have it.. I think I have fried the board at the fans.. I cannot get my fan to work on any position, neither always on or any of the others... Is there a way to confirm this?

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator @Magnusjen
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                                  @magnusjen said in Attempt to move motors when VIN is not in range DWC shows 0.5V:

                                  DUET 2 WIFI 1.03

                                  The 1.03 boards have a fan fuse near the fan connectors. Check if it is blown.
                                  https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Duet_Wiring_Diagrams

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                                  • Magnusjenundefined
                                    Magnusjen @Phaedrux
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                                    @phaedrux I have tested the fuses and the resistance is zero as it should be if it is working.

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                                    • genghisnico13undefined
                                      genghisnico13
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                                      Perhaps you could measure the voltage in the following points, one (or both) are used to measure Vin and you should see close to Vin/11.
                                      The pictures may not match your board exactly.

                                      1_1552591335864_duet wifi r81_v1.jpg

                                      0_1552591335863_duet wifi R16_v1.jpg
                                      I don't know which side is GND.

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                                      • Magnusjenundefined
                                        Magnusjen @genghisnico13
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                                        @genghisnico13 So, the top picture one is 24V (23.7 is the reading I get all the time but thats 24V) and the one in the lower picture is 23.5 which is odd, I measured it several times to ensure it was correct.

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                                        • genghisnico13undefined
                                          genghisnico13 @Magnusjen
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                                          @magnusjen Interesting I would like to see what @dc42 has to say about it, but if I am not mistaken that doesn't look good at all.

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                                          • Magnusjenundefined
                                            Magnusjen @genghisnico13
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                                            @genghisnico13 Yeah... I have lost hope, I am just waiting for someone to confirm it is dead.. I will take it as an expensive lesson in basic wiring.

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