Attempt to move motors when VIN is not in range DWC shows 0.5V
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EDIT: My memory failed me. I've removed the illustration so as not to lead anyone astray.
The three pin connector nearest the big green VIN power in screw terminals should be blank.
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@danal jumper??? There never was a jumper there on my board.
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@magnusjen said in Attempt to move motors when VIN is not in range:
@danal jumper??? There never was a jumper there on my board.
Yeah, just realized, I was thinking of a different jumper. They are correct the way you describe, empty.
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@danal Good timing, I was just about to put one on hehe
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Summary:
- 3.3V is good, or you couldn't talk to the board (WiFi, CPU, etc, would be dead).
We've verified with lights and voltage readings that :
- VIN is good
- Fuses are good
- VIN is getting to various points around the board.
Which means I'm stumped as to why DWC is saying "insufficient voltage". If I think of anything, I will post, and meanwhile the Duet/Escher guys will be online in a few hours.
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@danal Thanks for the help so far bud! I will go and run some errands while I wait for them to be online.. I am stumped myself, but I am happy this forum exists! I really want the board to work it seems so great.
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Just a random update, to those following along.. I checked the voltage from the PWN in (which comes in at 24V still) against the heatbed, the heatbed also says 24V... I checked against an always on fan pin and got a tiny spark... I will just stop checking voltage for a little while.
The console still shows 5V.. I have tried unplugging everything from the board (why? Why not) and the console still shows 5V. I am going slightly insane here.
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So I noticed something fun... It actually reads as 0.5 V in the web interface, which makes even less sense to me. I haven't touched any of the jumpers, they are the way I got them.
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Status on the Issue
I am using a DUET 2 WIFI 1.03 with newest firmware (non-beta) - on an Ender 3 pro, the power supply is the Ender 3 Pros. The fans are the Ender 3 stock fans which are all 24V. I used hooked these up to the board, but did several wrong wirings ( I think), I even tried to hook up a 5V fan without changing the jumper nothing happend. After this the motors were still working. I turned the board off and tried to rewire the fans that did not work, the next day I turn the board on and I get the error and DWC showing 0.5 V.The issue:
When I try to move the motors it says "Attempt to move motors when VIN is not in range"DWC shows 0.5 V in VIN
I have tested all fuses they show zero ohm
I have measured power in and it shows 24 V
I have measured from power to heatbed and it shows 24V
I have measured from power to hotend and it shows 24V
Wifi Blue light check
3.3V green light check
5V red light check
VIN blue light check
Z,Y, X stop red lights check
I have checked that VIN is tight (it is tight..)
All jumpers are in "stock" positionsSo... Thats about where we are at... Help me DUET forum, you are my only hope... I just wanna know if it is dead and I have to try again
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Just got home from work (will just do continues updates here in the hope that someone will see and have an idea/using it as a log in case someone wants to chim in).
I have done a "visual" inspection of the board, everything seems to be in order nothing that looks burned or shorted.
The DWC still reports 0.5 V, but I can activate both hotend and heatbed.. But not my motors. So power is clearly going somewhere but not to the motors.
I will look into if the fans can work - Ah... there we might have it.. I think I have fried the board at the fans.. I cannot get my fan to work on any position, neither always on or any of the others... Is there a way to confirm this?
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@magnusjen said in Attempt to move motors when VIN is not in range DWC shows 0.5V:
DUET 2 WIFI 1.03
The 1.03 boards have a fan fuse near the fan connectors. Check if it is blown.
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@phaedrux I have tested the fuses and the resistance is zero as it should be if it is working.
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Perhaps you could measure the voltage in the following points, one (or both) are used to measure Vin and you should see close to Vin/11.
The pictures may not match your board exactly.
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@genghisnico13 So, the top picture one is 24V (23.7 is the reading I get all the time but thats 24V) and the one in the lower picture is 23.5 which is odd, I measured it several times to ensure it was correct.
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@magnusjen Interesting I would like to see what @dc42 has to say about it, but if I am not mistaken that doesn't look good at all.
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@genghisnico13 Yeah... I have lost hope, I am just waiting for someone to confirm it is dead.. I will take it as an expensive lesson in basic wiring.
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it can be resoldered see information here:
https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connector_and_spare_part_numbers#Section_Fan_mosfet
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@veti Well, sounds like I will just wire my old control board up if that is the case and wait for new electronics parts to arrive and the perfect day to sit super calm and solder it on.
But good to know there is a fix, I will just wait for DCs comment.
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The voltage reported by DWC (and also in the M122 report) is the VIN voltage after the 7.5A fuse. That supply also feeds the stepper motors, 5V regulator and extruder heaters. A voltage divider with a ratio of 11:1 feeds the ADC input.
If the input to the voltage divider is 24V but the DWC reading is only 0.5V then I can see a few possibilities:
- The upper resistor in the voltage divider is not soldered down or is cracked.
- The ADC input pin is shorted to another signal that is close to ground potential.
- The ADC has failed. But in that case I would expect the thermistor readings not to be correct.
My gut feeling is that your Duet can be got working again.
Does the extruder heater heat up when commanded to do so, despite the VIN reading of 0.5V in DWC and/or M122 ?
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@dc42 He has a 1.03, not 1.04.
OP: can you post a photo of your board from above?
