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    • briangilbertundefined
      briangilbert
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      Funnily enough my first ever model was with OpenSCAD, but I admit I personally gravitate to Tinkercad for most quick things, the beta version is a lot nicer with it's ability to enter parameters for measurements at least (I wist there was a way to convert older projects to use the beta version).

      I have used OnShape and it's awesome to use collaboratively, currently trying to get up to speed with Fusion 360.

      Co-creator of the Zesty Nimble direct drive extruder

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      • timcurtis67undefined
        timcurtis67
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        @briangilbert:

        Funnily enough my first ever model was with OpenSCAD, but I admit I personally gravitate to Tinkercad for most quick things, the beta version is a lot nicer with it's ability to enter parameters for measurements at least (I wist there was a way to convert older projects to use the beta version).

        I have used OnShape and it's awesome to use collaboratively, currently trying to get up to speed with Fusion 360.

        2X on the OnShape software. It is very powerful for design.

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        • botundefined
          bot
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          Fusion 360 will be standard for product design in a few years!

          They have FEA simulation of the following: static stress, resonant frequency, thermal (how things heat up), and thermal stress (how things warp when hot). They will soon have fluid flow simulation as well (and possibly others).

          They will soon have sheet metal design tools, and even generative design tools which will test a part and reduce it to its minimum required shape/thickness.

          They have built-in HSMexpress (CAM), built-in raytracing (photo-realistic rendering), etc etc.

          If anyone hasn't tried Fusion 360 yet, I would highly recommend it.

          *not actually a robot

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          • Huguesundefined
            Hugues
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            I also vote for fusion, i use it evryday on my work for product design and 3d printing. It generate good mesh without error.

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            • Zesty_Lykleundefined
              Zesty_Lykle
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              Back to the Nimble, just to let you know we posted an update.
              One that is very relevant to this forum. Here is a snippet:

              We feel a need to celebrate the fact that we've now hit 100 backers.
              We have been developing and testing several further improvement to the Nimble since before the campaign started, We are trying to figure out which of these to share with now. Should it be about weight, the breach system update or something else. Hard to choose.

              Let's pick something else. We are developing add on's for the Nimble. The first one to come is probably a filament sensor which is under development together with David Crocker. You will be able to clip it onto the Nimble and it will tell you when the filament stops moving, either because of a break, jam or you simply ran out of filament. This is NOT a stretch goal as it will not be ready in time, but we are trying to get there as fast as we can. We think it is a nice addition to the Nimble, and hope you agree.

              Nice, yes?

              Lykle
              Design, make and enjoy life

              Co Creator of the Zesty Nimble

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              • DjDemonDundefined
                DjDemonD
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                Hi the filament sensor will it be a simple run-out sensor or a means of measuring filament fed?

                Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
                www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
                PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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                • briangilbertundefined
                  briangilbert
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                  @DjDemonD:

                  Hi the filament sensor will it be a simple run-out sensor or a means of measuring filament fed?

                  We're expecting to implement both

                  Co-creator of the Zesty Nimble direct drive extruder

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                  • briangilbertundefined
                    briangilbert
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                    Hi all,

                    We've just made a significant announcement, something we've been working on since before the campaign launched. An improved breech system, you can change filament over with one hand, and the Nimble now 15% lighter!
                    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lykle/super-light-and-easy-to-use-extruder-for-your-3d-p/posts/1719422

                    Videos of the key change can be found at:
                    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lykle/super-light-and-easy-to-use-extruder-for-your-3d-p/posts/1723021

                    Cheers
                    Brian

                    Co-creator of the Zesty Nimble direct drive extruder

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                    • briangilbertundefined
                      briangilbert
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                      We were invited on to the Crowdfunding Cast podcast, feel free to have a listen:
                      http://crowdfundingcast.tk/crowdfunding-cast-episode-477-zesty-nimble/

                      Also, if any of you live in Melbourne Australia, I'll be demoing the Nimble live on Monday at CCHS:
                      https://www.meetup.com/Connected-Community-HackerSpace-Melbourne/events/235318771/

                      Co-creator of the Zesty Nimble direct drive extruder

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                      • grndkntrlundefined
                        grndkntrl
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                        I signed up to KS just to back this project, even though I don't yet have a 3D printer of any sort. I'm planning on building a large Delta based on the Hexagon V2 (http://wiki.fablab-karlsruhe.de/doku.php?id=projekte:hexagon_v2), but made with 2060 extrusions for extra beefiness & expansion options, a circular bed (not square), and with the DuetWiFi for the brains.

                        I would've loved to be able to pledge for 3 Nimbles so that I can then get a Diamond Hotend built in from the start, but sadly am currently only able to set aside enough for one and hope that the KS meets it's goal so that I can get the other two once I can afford it.

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                        • briangilbertundefined
                          briangilbert
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                          Retraction hell Nimble test print (Passed!): https://www.reddit.com/r/3Dprinting/comments/5crmyy/retraction_hell_test_print_pass/

                          Youtube video for most of the print will be getting uploaded as soon as possible.

                          Co-creator of the Zesty Nimble direct drive extruder

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                          • DjDemonDundefined
                            DjDemonD
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                            So talking of retraction what speed retraction can you achieve? And what motor/current setting is this. I know it took a fair amount of trial and error with my flex3drive to achieve a balance between fast enough retraction and motor current. What is your overall gear ratio between drive gear shaft and the motor?

                            Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
                            www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
                            PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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                            • briangilbertundefined
                              briangilbert
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                              Here is the video

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuFVCxA-IpI

                              Co-creator of the Zesty Nimble direct drive extruder

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                              • briangilbertundefined
                                briangilbert
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                                @DjDemonD:

                                So talking of retraction what speed retraction can you achieve? And what motor/current setting is this. I know it took a fair amount of trial and error with my flex3drive to achieve a balance between fast enough retraction and motor current. What is your overall gear ratio between drive gear shaft and the motor?

                                The ratio is listed on our KS campaign, it's 30:1

                                I also spoke with David Crocker about extrusion and retraction speeds he suggested that more than 5mm/sec is largely pointless (which is confusing give the web interface defaults), though I have run at up to 10mm/sec as well.

                                Co-creator of the Zesty Nimble direct drive extruder

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators
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                                  @briangilbert:

                                  I also spoke with David Crocker about extrusion and retraction speeds he suggested that more than 5mm/sec is largely pointless (which is confusing give the web interface defaults), though I have run at up to 10mm/sec as well.

                                  I made that remark in the context of using 1 to 2mm retraction, because I thought that with such a small amount of retraction there isn't sufficient accelerate/decelerate distance to reach high speeds. However, I've now done the sums and if the extruder acceleration is 1000mm/sec^2 then it turns it that with 2mm retraction you can reach 45mm/sec. I don't know whether higher speeds help or not when using small amounts of retraction in a direct drive extruder, because I don't have one.

                                  If you use a conventional extruder with a long Bowden tube and much longer retraction distances, then higher retraction speeds are certainly worthwhile.

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                  • briangilbertundefined
                                    briangilbert
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                                    @dc42 thanks for the clarification David.

                                    @DjDemonD given we're only seeing the need for 1mm or less retractions then what I said still stands I believe.

                                    These are the settings I have in firmware at the moment:

                                    [[language]]
                                    M201 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E1000								; Accelerations (mm/s^2) Set all E-motors the same
                                    M203 X10000 Y10000 Z10000 E3600								; Maximum speeds (mm/min) Set all E-motors the same
                                    M566 X1200 Y1200 Z1200 E1200								; Maximum instant speed changes mm/minute. Set all E-motors the same
                                    
                                    

                                    @dc42:

                                    @briangilbert:

                                    I also spoke with David Crocker about extrusion and retraction speeds he suggested that more than 5mm/sec is largely pointless (which is confusing give the web interface defaults), though I have run at up to 10mm/sec as well.

                                    I made that remark in the context of using 1 to 2mm retraction, because I thought that with such a small amount of retraction there isn't sufficient accelerate/decelerate distance to reach high speeds. However, I've now done the sums and if the extruder acceleration is 1000mm/sec^2 then it turns it that with 2mm retraction you can reach 45mm/sec. I don't know whether higher speeds help or not when using small amounts of retraction in a direct drive extruder, because I don't have one.

                                    If you use a conventional extruder with a long Bowden tube and much longer retraction distances, then higher retraction speeds are certainly worthwhile.

                                    Co-creator of the Zesty Nimble direct drive extruder

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