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    grabercars
    last edited by 13 Apr 2019, 16:29

    This is my first Duet Wifi-based deltabot printer build, however I've built many 3D printers over the years using Marlin, Repetier and Smoothieware firmware.

    I'm really loving the new hardware and the DWC, but recently had a print fail near the end point with an "Error: Attempting to extrude with no tool selected." error message.

    Hardware is new, control board and firmware is the latest version, and I'm also running a 7i panel with most recent firmware updates. 400mm round bed, Fresh E3D V6 hotend with a .5 nozzle and a Zesty Nimble extruder.

    I'm wondering if this is a temperature issue or what else might be the problem? I've printed 10 other projects so far on this printer with the Duet Wifi and this is the first time for this error message.

    Thanks, Steve Graber

    Here is the DWC with the errors showing from last night:
    0_1555171655140_signal-2019-04-13-075841-1.jpg

    Here is the print that it failed on:
    0_1555171696794_signal-2019-04-13-075841.jpg

    I assume that the printer continued to print with no extrusion during the night because it was homed and waiting idle in the morning.

    Here is the relevant S3D initial gcode for this file: Note - There is NO Tool Select gcode anywhere else in this file except T0 at the very beginning.

    ; G-Code generated by Simplify3D(R) Version 4.1.1
    ; Feb 23, 2019 at 9:56:36 AM
    ; Settings Summary

    ; printExtruders,
    ; extruderName,Extruder 1
    ; extruderToolheadNumber,0

    ; primaryExtruder,0

    ; useSkirt,1
    ; skirtExtruder,0

    ; temperatureName,Extruder 1,heated bed
    ; temperatureNumber,0,0
    ; temperatureSetpointCount,1,1
    ; temperatureSetpointLayers,1,1
    ; temperatureSetpointTemperatures,220,60
    ; temperatureStabilizeAtStartup,1,1

    ; use5D,1
    ; relativeEdistances,0
    ; allowEaxisZeroing,1
    ; independentExtruderAxes,0
    ; includeM10123,0
    ; stickySupport,1
    ; applyToolheadOffsets,0
    ; gcodeXoffset,0
    ; gcodeYoffset,0
    ; gcodeZoffset,0
    ; overrideMachineDefinition,1
    ; machineTypeOverride,1

    ; overrideFirmwareConfiguration,1
    ; firmwareTypeOverride,RepRap (Marlin/Repetier/Sprinter)
    ; GPXconfigOverride,r2
    ; baudRateOverride,250000
    ; overridePrinterModels,0
    ; printerModelsOverride
    ; startingGcode,G28 ; home all axes
    ; layerChangeGcode,
    ; retractionGcode,
    ; toolChangeGcode,
    ; endingGcode,M104 S0 ; turn off extruder,M140 S0 ; turn off bed,G28 ; home all axes,M84 ; disable motors
    ; exportFileFormat,gcode

    G90
    M82
    M106 S0
    M109 S220 T0

    G28 ; home all axes
    ; process new process
    ; layer 1, Z = 0.174
    T0
    G92 E0.0000
    G1 E-1.0000 F1800
    ; feature skirt
    ; tool H0.174 W0.630
    G1 Z0.400 F12000
    G1 X25.364 Y-11.093 F12000
    G1 Z0.174 F12000
    G1 E0.0500 F1800
    G92 E0.0000
    G1 X25.668 Y-9.991 E0.0469 F1500

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      Phaedrux Moderator
      last edited by 13 Apr 2019, 16:33

      Can you post the full gcode file?

      Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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        grabercars
        last edited by 13 Apr 2019, 16:38

        It is almost 30Mb in size.

        Here is a Google-Drive link

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          bot
          last edited by 13 Apr 2019, 16:42

          Is it possible that someone accidentally clicked on something in a web interface or pressed a button on the PanelDue or accidentally bumped into the LCD panel, causing the tool to deselect?

          *not actually a robot

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            Phaedrux Moderator @grabercars
            last edited by 13 Apr 2019, 16:54

            @grabercars said in Attempting to extrude with no tool selected - During Print:

            It is almost 30Mb in size.

            Here is a Google-Drive link

            Your link is set to private, so I can't get it. Request sent though.

            Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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              grabercars @Phaedrux
              last edited by 13 Apr 2019, 18:25

              @phaedrux sorry. try this

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                grabercars @bot
                last edited by 13 Apr 2019, 18:27

                @bot It is not. The panel and all electronics are located at the top of the machine.

                alt text

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                • undefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator
                  last edited by 13 Apr 2019, 18:31

                  What firmware versions are you running?

                  I can't see anything obvious in the gcode file, and can't think of a reason why it would deselect a tool.

                  Were there any other error messages in the gcode console? Perhaps a heater fault?

                  Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                    grabercars @Phaedrux
                    last edited by 13 Apr 2019, 18:43

                    @phaedrux I didn't see anything in the code either.

                    Firmware is all updated fresh last week. I'm away from the machine and can give you the M115 response later today.

                    The printer has been restarted since the issue and I didn't see anything temp related but I may have missed it.

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                      grabercars @Phaedrux
                      last edited by 13 Apr 2019, 19:08

                      @phaedrux said in Attempting to extrude with no tool selected - During Print:

                      What firmware versions are you running?

                      M115 returns : Version 2.02(rtos) electronics duet wifi 1.02 or later. Date 2018-12-24b1

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                        Phaedrux Moderator
                        last edited by 13 Apr 2019, 19:43

                        If it happens again, try to scan through the console page to see any other error messages, and send a M122 to get a diagnostic report.

                        Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators
                          last edited by 14 Apr 2019, 11:12

                          Also you might want to turn logging on.

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                            jaurand
                            last edited by 28 May 2019, 10:58

                            i also am getting these same error messages during a print. really confused as what could be happening as they occur at about 6hrs in two separate prints

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                              dc42 administrators @jaurand
                              last edited by 28 May 2019, 11:10

                              @jaurand said in Attempting to extrude with no tool selected - During Print:

                              i also am getting these same error messages during a print. really confused as what could be happening as they occur at about 6hrs in two separate prints

                              Have you searched your GCode file for T commands, and checked that they all refer to tools that you have created using M563 commands in config,g?

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                jaurand @dc42
                                last edited by jaurand 28 May 2019, 12:08

                                @dc42 I have not, as the GCode file is 45MB and I was able to successfully complete other smaller prints with no issue. I only have one tool and it starts the print just fine. Would it be better to put the T command in Cura in the startup file section? (sorry at work and not sure of the exact term)

                                The only odd thing I can think may be an issue is I used Curas "Print on my Printer" selection rather than uploading the file to Duet and then printing from the browser.

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                                  jaurand @dc42
                                  last edited by jaurand 28 May 2019, 19:05

                                  @dc42 just ran the same file and completed without any error, only difference was uploading it directly to duetwifi and starting print from web browser.

                                  There must have been an error when having Cura begin the print and the file might have corrupted on the transfer I suppose?

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                                  • dc42undefined
                                    dc42 administrators @jaurand
                                    last edited by 28 May 2019, 20:02

                                    @jaurand said in Attempting to extrude with no tool selected - During Print:

                                    There must have been an error when having Cura begin the print and the file might have corrupted on the transfer I suppose?

                                    It does sound like that. You may have a USB ground loop, see the wiki for details.

                                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                      jaurand
                                      last edited by 30 May 2019, 09:32

                                      @dc42 said in Attempting to extrude with no tool selected - During Print:

                                      USB ground loop

                                      well i got the same error again last night. I'm not even connected via USB is the thing, all over wifi

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                                      • dc42undefined
                                        dc42 administrators @jaurand
                                        last edited by dc42 30 May 2019, 10:25

                                        1. Do you have logging enabled (M929)? If so, is there anything of interest in the log file?

                                        2. Did the error occur in the same place as previously?

                                        3. If you upload the file back to your PC from the Duet, does it compare exactly with the original?

                                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                          jaurand @dc42
                                          last edited by 30 May 2019, 12:46

                                          @dc42 said in Attempting to extrude with no tool selected - During Print:

                                          1. Do you have logging enabled (M929)? If so, is there anything of interest in the log file?

                                          2. Did the error occur in the same place as previously?

                                          3. If you upload the file back to your PC from the Duet, does it compare exactly with the original?

                                          1. I do not have logging enabled on the config file itself, but I did export the console log file and it only thing that states was the error attempting to extrude with no tool selected, literally an hour after i first started the print.

                                          2. This error occurred much earlier than last time, on layer 2 of the print rather than 8 hours into my previous print.

                                          3. Comparing the file (checked early in the file since error occurred at layer 2) everything looks the same.

                                          At least positive thing to note since once the error occurs the printer does continue to print just does not extrude so at least I do not have a spaghetti monster mess of filament

                                          dc42undefined 1 Reply Last reply 30 May 2019, 13:09 Reply Quote 0
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