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    • sibluesundefined
      siblues
      last edited by siblues

      I contacted Filastruder to see if this is a warranty repair or if I need to pay for the repair myself.I really would like to know what is going on.I can't seem to find much information on what may be causing this.

      I hve also tried this version of firmware with no change

      2.02RC2(RTOS) (2018-09-07b2)

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      • sibluesundefined
        siblues
        last edited by

        I had the fault happen again and ran M122 afterwards to see if tht would clear anything up and here are the results

        M122
        === Diagnostics ===
        RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 2.02RC2(RTOS) running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
        Board ID: 08DGM-9T6BU-FG3SN-6JKD6-3S06P-KAYBD
        Used output buffers: 3 of 20 (12 max)
        === RTOS ===
        Static ram: 28460
        Dynamic ram: 98312 of which 0 recycled
        Exception stack ram used: 356
        Never used ram: 3944
        Tasks: NETWORK(ready,328) HEAT(blocked,1232) MAIN(running,3540)
        Owned mutexes:
        === Platform ===
        Last reset 02:00:41 ago, cause: software
        Last software reset at 2019-05-20 22:28, reason: User, spinning module GCodes, available RAM 4016 bytes (slot 0)
        Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0441f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0xffffffff Task 0x4e49414d
        Error status: 0
        Free file entries: 10
        SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
        SD card longest block write time: 0.0ms, max retries 0
        MCU temperature: min 35.3, current 35.9, max 36.7
        Supply voltage: min 12.6, current 12.8, max 12.9, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0
        Driver 0: standstill, SG min/max 0/73
        Driver 1: standstill, SG min/max 0/221
        Driver 2: standstill, SG min/max not available
        Driver 3: standstill, SG min/max not available
        Driver 4: standstill, SG min/max not available
        Date/time: 2019-05-21 00:29:29
        Slowest loop: 5.22ms; fastest: 0.06ms
        === Move ===
        Hiccups: 0, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, FreeDm: 240, MinFreeDm: 234, MaxWait: 6955014ms, Underruns: 0, 0
        Scheduled moves: 45, completed moves: 45
        Bed compensation in use: mesh
        Bed probe heights: 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
        === Heat ===
        Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1
        === GCodes ===
        Segments left: 0
        Stack records: 2 allocated, 0 in use
        Movement lock held by null
        http is idle in state(s) 0
        telnet is idle in state(s) 0
        file is idle in state(s) 0
        serial is idle in state(s) 0
        aux is idle in state(s) 0
        daemon is idle in state(s) 0
        queue is idle in state(s) 0
        autopause is idle in state(s) 0
        Code queue is empty.
        === Network ===
        Slowest loop: 22.84ms; fastest: 0.01ms
        Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0) Telnet(0)
        HTTP sessions: 1 of 8

        • WiFi -
          Network state is running
          WiFi module is connected to access point
          Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 0
          WiFi firmware version 1.22
          WiFi MAC address 84:f3:eb:42:a9:91
          WiFi Vcc 3.45, reset reason Turned on by main processor
          WiFi flash size 4194304, free heap 25504
          WiFi IP address 192.168.1.6
          WiFi signal strength -37dBm, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
          Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
          === Expansion ===
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        • Vetiundefined
          Veti
          last edited by

          update to the latest 2.03 firmware. DC made a fix for that message i think

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          • sibluesundefined
            siblues
            last edited by

            I was using 2.03 and he recommended reverting back to 2.02 RC2 and I tried that too with no luck.

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            • elmoretundefined
              elmoret
              last edited by

              @dc42 - How do you think we should proceed here?

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              • sibluesundefined
                siblues
                last edited by

                Are you asking me?That is what I am trying to figure out.I was hoping DC42 would chime in since he usually has a quick solution or ways of figuring out if the board is damaged.

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators
                  last edited by dc42

                  @siblues, please can you do the following:

                  1. Make sure you are running either 2.02 stable firmware (not a 2.02beta or 2.02RC version), or 2.03RC2.

                  2. Next time this problem occurs, please run M906 without parameters and check that it reports the motor currents are as you set them (1200mA). Also run M913 and check they are at 100%.

                  3. Do you have anything connected to the expansion connector?

                  4. Do the warning messages mention just phase A and just driver 1? Or more drivers and/or both phases?

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                  • sibluesundefined
                    siblues
                    last edited by

                    6:54:46 PMM906
                    Motor current (mA) - X:1500, Y:1500, Z:1500, E:1200:1200, idle factor 30%
                    6:54:34 PMError: motor phase A disconnected on drivers 1

                    6:57:27 PMM913
                    Motor current % of normal - X:100, Y:100, Z:100, E💯100
                    6:56:51 PMError: motor phase A disconnected on drivers 1

                    I only have the BLTouch connections on the expansion header on heater 3. The X axis motor and extruder motor aren't and haven't given me the error while the Y axis and z axis both have given me the error but I couldn't reproduce the x motor having the issue at the moment.Here is the current software information

                    Firmware Name: RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet
                    Firmware Electronics: Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
                    Firmware Version: 2.02RC2(RTOS) (2018-09-07b2)
                    WiFi Server Version: 1.22
                    Web Interface Version: 1.22.6
                    Web Interface by Christian Hammacher
                    Licensed under the terms of the GPL v3

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                    • Vetiundefined
                      Veti
                      last edited by

                      so you swapped the wiring. can you swap the motor to make sure its not the motor?

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                      • sibluesundefined
                        siblues
                        last edited by

                        It is 3 different motors that are all giving me the message but I can swap the motors if that would make it easier to diagnose?

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                        • Vetiundefined
                          Veti
                          last edited by

                          so far you have only shown the error message about phase A on driver 1.

                          does it happen with all phases on all drivers?

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                          • sibluesundefined
                            siblues
                            last edited by

                            I was also getting the error message on the Z axis motors but that error message is random and hasn't happened again.The Y axis does it everytime.

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                            • sibluesundefined
                              siblues
                              last edited by

                              The motors attempt to move when using DWC but they stutter shaking back and forth. I attempted raising the voltages slightly but it made no difference.

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                              • Vetiundefined
                                Veti @siblues
                                last edited by

                                @siblues said in Motor phase disconnected problem?:

                                6:54:46 PMM906
                                Motor current (mA) - X:1500, Y:1500, Z:1500, E:1200:1200, idle factor 30%

                                M906 X1200 Y1200 Z1200 E1200 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent

                                this does not match

                                but you have a M501

                                so please post your overwrite.

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators @siblues
                                  last edited by

                                  @siblues said in Motor phase disconnected problem?:

                                  The motors attempt to move when using DWC but they stutter shaking back and forth. I attempted raising the voltages slightly but it made no difference.

                                  Common reasons for this:

                                  1. Motors not phased correctly. This is serious as it can cause the drivers to be damaged. So check that the motor phases are connected correctly first.
                                  2. Bad crimp connection in the motor wires, so that only one phase is being energised.
                                  3. Speed and/or acceleration set too high, bearing in mind the steps/mm (higher steps/mm => lower accelerations and speeds possible).
                                  4. Weak PSU, so that the voltage drops below 10V when the motors draw current.
                                  5. Blown stepper driver.
                                  6. Blown motor.

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                  • sibluesundefined
                                    siblues @Veti
                                    last edited by

                                    @veti Here is the override and the current was changed to 1500 to test it is set at 1200 usually.

                                    @dc42 The motors have been working just fine for a while with that original harness and the harness has since been replaced.The printer has a genuine Meanwell 450watt 12v psu and it only fluctuates .02 volts.Here are the current motor settings for what I have set for speed.

                                    ; Drives
                                    M569 P0 S0 ; Drive 0 goes forwards reversed
                                    M569 P1 S1 ; Drive 1 goes forwards
                                    M569 P2 S0 ; Drive 2 goes forwards reversed
                                    M569 P3 S1 ; Drive 3 goes forwards
                                    M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
                                    M92 X80 Y80 Z400 E415 ; Set steps per mm
                                    M566 X900 Y900 Z12 E1200 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                    M203 X6000 Y6000 Z180 E1200 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                    M201 X500 Y250 Z250 E2500 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                    M906 X1200 Y1200 Z1200 E1200 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                    M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                                    I can check the motor but how would I check for a blown driver and what would cause that to happen all of a sudden?

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                                    • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                      T3P3Tony administrators @siblues
                                      last edited by T3P3Tony

                                      @siblues you can check to see if it's a driver by swapping the motors plugged into a working axis with the not working one. Drivers can get blown when wiring develops intermittent faults in a single phase.

                                      www.duet3d.com

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                                      • sibluesundefined
                                        siblues
                                        last edited by

                                        I had some motors on the way so I tried what Tony mentioned and it was a bad motor.

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