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    • Vetiundefined
      Veti
      last edited by

      do check with m122 that mesh bed leveling is still active.

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      • lui2004undefined
        lui2004
        last edited by lui2004

        @veti said in problem with the Mesh?second print start in the air:

        m122

        seems active

        Bed compensation in use: mesh
        Bed probe heights: -0.052 -0.028 0.000 0.000 0.000

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        • dc42undefined
          dc42 administrators
          last edited by

          Are you able to reproduce this problem without doing an actual print? Or with a "print" comprising just a few lines of GCode taken from a real print?

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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          • lui2004undefined
            lui2004
            last edited by

            do i need to post gcode from a print ?

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators
              last edited by

              What I would like a the GCode for a simple sequence that replicates the problem - not a full GCode file that takes a long time to print, but a very simple one that takes only a few seconds.

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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              • lui2004undefined
                lui2004
                last edited by lui2004

                if you explane me how to do this i will post it

                because now i finisched my first print after mesh and the second print is to heigh from the bed

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                • T3P3Tonyundefined
                  T3P3Tony administrators @lui2004
                  last edited by

                  @lui2004 Please share a small gcode file from your slicer that causes this issue.

                  www.duet3d.com

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                  • PaulHewundefined
                    PaulHew
                    last edited by

                    I am having this problem too, again.
                    Full hardware check after upgrading my hotend to a DirectDrive etc.
                    Manual bed level, Setup correct Z height M564, G92 Z0, probe tests etc.
                    Ran mesh Level.
                    Printed a test object to test retraction came out fine.
                    Went to print a second object and would not stick to bed.

                    Piece of paper under nozzle dropped Z to where the Maestro thought was 0 and it was above again, paper not being gripped.
                    Redid the probe height again and was out by about -0.15 to get it to touch the paper.
                    This happened a number of times, I upgraded my Maestro to 2.03RC3 just incase.
                    Printed an object overnight to test how well everything is and print came out fine, after performing the procedure multiple times.

                    This morning I came back from gym and have tried to print something, everytime failing.
                    Piece of paper under the nozzle drop Z to where it thinks 0 is and again I can get a piece of paper under the nozzle and it is not touching.
                    M564 S0
                    Adjust down to paper and it is -0.20 out again.

                    Issued G92 Z0 which supposedly tells the board where 0 is.
                    Powered off and on printer, homed all.
                    Piece of paper, drop Z to where it thinks 0 is and again it is -0.15 out.
                    I am doing this as I am typing to make sure I give you all info to help.

                    This keeps happening and no one touches the printer apart from me.
                    It seems to have a mind of its own and this is not the first time I have reported this issue along with other people.

                    Is there anything I can do to help Duet isolate this problem please let me know.

                    Regards

                    Paul.

                    RailCore II - Duet Mini + 1LC, Voron V0.1 - Duet Mini
                    Voron 2.4 disassembled..... Waiting for the RailCore Mini....

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                    • lui2004undefined
                      lui2004
                      last edited by lui2004

                      now if i put in G31 Z-0.1 it print first layer with 0.12mm
                      if i put 0.2 the printer print 0.2.4mm,why ?

                      something is going wrong or no ?

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                      • Vetiundefined
                        Veti @lui2004
                        last edited by

                        @lui2004
                        you do not adjust the first layer for the first layer with G31. The slicer does that for you.
                        The G31 is the same for every layer height.

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                        • lui2004undefined
                          lui2004
                          last edited by lui2004

                          I insert only The trigger height what i get with G30 -1 ?

                          My config in first Post is ok ?
                          I will use 2 indepenent z motors and mesh what is The best procedur ?

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                          • Exerqtorundefined
                            Exerqtor @lui2004
                            last edited by Exerqtor

                            @lui2004 said in problem with the Mesh?second print start in the air:

                            I insert only The trigger height what i get with G30 -1 ?

                            I don't think you have quite understood how this all is supossed to work mate.

                            You shouldn't have to rely on a G30 at all other than when your doing Z-homing, all that should be taken care of in the G31 inside your config.g. When at Z0 and you have your G31 configured correct your nozzle should be actually touching the bed surface. And then the first layer setting you choose in your slicer wil raise the nozzle to the corresponding amount.

                            The mesh bed leveling is applied on the firmware side at all time to adjust for the uneaveness in your bed on top of that initial first layer height, given that you have G29 S1 after the homing sequence of your startup script (in your slicer).

                            Being your using a microswitch type Z-probe you have to be pretty accurate with the physical Z-ofsett from your nozzle not to buttom it out depending on your switch and bed setup ofc.

                            To get this to work you have to give us the Start script you have set in your slicer like the other guys here have been asking for. Given that the 0.320mm Z-offset you have in your config.g is correct the problem have to be somewhere in your startup code.

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                            • lui2004undefined
                              lui2004
                              last edited by

                              Hi

                              Thanks for your answer !
                              My english is not The best sorry for some errors.😉

                              I think also i dont have understand hownto use it.

                              Can you Help me to get it work ?
                              And how to procedur? My config is in Post 1 what i have in usr.

                              In my slicer in start Scripts i have only G28 ; Home all axes nothing more

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator @PaulHew
                                last edited by

                                @paulhew said in problem with the Mesh?second print start in the air:

                                I am having this problem too, again.
                                Full hardware check after upgrading my hotend to a DirectDrive etc.
                                Manual bed level, Setup correct Z height M564, G92 Z0, probe tests etc.
                                Ran mesh Level.
                                Printed a test object to test retraction came out fine.
                                Went to print a second object and would not stick to bed.

                                Piece of paper under nozzle dropped Z to where the Maestro thought was 0 and it was above again, paper not being gripped.
                                Redid the probe height again and was out by about -0.15 to get it to touch the paper.
                                This happened a number of times, I upgraded my Maestro to 2.03RC3 just incase.
                                Printed an object overnight to test how well everything is and print came out fine, after performing the procedure multiple times.

                                This morning I came back from gym and have tried to print something, everytime failing.
                                Piece of paper under the nozzle drop Z to where it thinks 0 is and again I can get a piece of paper under the nozzle and it is not touching.
                                M564 S0
                                Adjust down to paper and it is -0.20 out again.

                                Issued G92 Z0 which supposedly tells the board where 0 is.
                                Powered off and on printer, homed all.
                                Piece of paper, drop Z to where it thinks 0 is and again it is -0.15 out.
                                I am doing this as I am typing to make sure I give you all info to help.

                                This keeps happening and no one touches the printer apart from me.
                                It seems to have a mind of its own and this is not the first time I have reported this issue along with other people.

                                Is there anything I can do to help Duet isolate this problem please let me know.

                                Regards

                                Paul.

                                In order to keep peoples problems and configs etc straight it would be best to start a seperate thread with your own issues. It can get fairly confusing trying to help two seperate people in the same thread.

                                Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator @lui2004
                                  last edited by

                                  @lui2004 said in problem with the Mesh?second print start in the air:

                                  Hi

                                  Thanks for your answer !
                                  My english is not The best sorry for some errors.😉

                                  I think also i dont have understand hownto use it.

                                  Can you Help me to get it work ?
                                  And how to procedur? My config is in Post 1 what i have in usr.

                                  In my slicer in start Scripts i have only G28 ; Home all axes nothing more

                                  Can you post a picture of your heightmap image from the DWC?

                                  Do you have any end gcode in your slicer?

                                  G31 tells the firmware where the probe is in relation to the nozzle tip in X and Y and how far away the nozzle is from the bed when the probe triggers in Z.

                                  G30 takes that information from G31 and probes the bed and when the probe triggers it sets the current height to be equal to the G31 Z value, which should allow it to know where Z0 is.

                                  The first layer height in the slicer is set based on Z0 being at 0.

                                  Can you give us some more details about your printer? How is the Z axis setup?

                                  If you move the nozzle to Z0 and then move the Z axis up and down many times does it then return to Z0 accurately when you command it to?

                                  Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                  • lui2004undefined
                                    lui2004
                                    last edited by

                                    @exerqtor said in problem with the Mesh?second print start in the air:

                                    G29 S1

                                    0_1559059373220_mesh.gif

                                    i have insert follow:

                                    Starting script:
                                    G28 ; home all axes
                                    G29 S1 ; Load Mesh
                                    G1 X0 Y20 Z0.2 F3000 ; get ready to prime
                                    G92 E0 ; reset extrusion distance
                                    G1 X100 E20 F600 ; prime nozzle

                                    Ending Script:
                                    M104 S0 ; turn off extruder
                                    M140 S0 ; turn off bed
                                    G1 X0 Y200 F1000 ; prepare for part removal
                                    M84 ; disable motors

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      Are you releveling your 2 lead screws again before starting the next print?

                                      Your slicer end gcode turns off the motors, which could cause the two z axis motors to get out of sync.

                                      So you may want to add G32 to your start gcode to run bed.g before the print.

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                                      • lui2004undefined
                                        lui2004
                                        last edited by

                                        no i dont have made this to level for every print

                                        thats my printer
                                        0_1559061252395_hhhhhh.jpg

                                        ehat i can make for Ending Script
                                        ? leave it blank or delete the M84 ?

                                        like this:

                                        Starting script:
                                        G28 ; home all axes
                                        G29 S1 ; Load Mesh
                                        G32 ; releveling lead Screaws
                                        G1 X0 Y20 Z0.2 F3000 ; get ready to prime
                                        G92 E0 ; reset extrusion distance
                                        G1 X100 E20 F600 ; prime nozzle

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                                        • Exerqtorundefined
                                          Exerqtor @Phaedrux
                                          last edited by Exerqtor

                                          @phaedrux said in problem with the Mesh?second print start in the air:

                                          Are you releveling your 2 lead screws again before starting the next print?

                                          Your slicer end gcode turns off the motors, which could cause the two z axis motors to get out of sync.

                                          So you may want to add G32 to your start gcode to run bed.g before the print.

                                          Isn't G32 meant only if one have multible individually driven z-motors? If he drive he's two z-motors in paralell G32 won't do much?

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                                          • lui2004undefined
                                            lui2004
                                            last edited by

                                            I have 1 z motor in E0 and 1 motor in z motor

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