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    • grabercars
      grabercars last edited by

      This is my first Duet Wifi-based deltabot printer build, however I've built many 3D printers over the years using Marlin, Repetier and Smoothieware firmware.

      I'm really loving the new hardware and the DWC, but recently had a print fail near the end point with an "Error: Attempting to extrude with no tool selected." error message.

      Hardware is new, control board and firmware is the latest version, and I'm also running a 7i panel with most recent firmware updates. 400mm round bed, Fresh E3D V6 hotend with a .5 nozzle and a Zesty Nimble extruder.

      I'm wondering if this is a temperature issue or what else might be the problem? I've printed 10 other projects so far on this printer with the Duet Wifi and this is the first time for this error message.

      Thanks, Steve Graber

      Here is the DWC with the errors showing from last night:
      0_1555171655140_signal-2019-04-13-075841-1.jpg

      Here is the print that it failed on:
      0_1555171696794_signal-2019-04-13-075841.jpg

      I assume that the printer continued to print with no extrusion during the night because it was homed and waiting idle in the morning.

      Here is the relevant S3D initial gcode for this file: Note - There is NO Tool Select gcode anywhere else in this file except T0 at the very beginning.

      ; G-Code generated by Simplify3D(R) Version 4.1.1
      ; Feb 23, 2019 at 9:56:36 AM
      ; Settings Summary

      ; printExtruders,
      ; extruderName,Extruder 1
      ; extruderToolheadNumber,0

      ; primaryExtruder,0

      ; useSkirt,1
      ; skirtExtruder,0

      ; temperatureName,Extruder 1,heated bed
      ; temperatureNumber,0,0
      ; temperatureSetpointCount,1,1
      ; temperatureSetpointLayers,1,1
      ; temperatureSetpointTemperatures,220,60
      ; temperatureStabilizeAtStartup,1,1

      ; use5D,1
      ; relativeEdistances,0
      ; allowEaxisZeroing,1
      ; independentExtruderAxes,0
      ; includeM10123,0
      ; stickySupport,1
      ; applyToolheadOffsets,0
      ; gcodeXoffset,0
      ; gcodeYoffset,0
      ; gcodeZoffset,0
      ; overrideMachineDefinition,1
      ; machineTypeOverride,1

      ; overrideFirmwareConfiguration,1
      ; firmwareTypeOverride,RepRap (Marlin/Repetier/Sprinter)
      ; GPXconfigOverride,r2
      ; baudRateOverride,250000
      ; overridePrinterModels,0
      ; printerModelsOverride
      ; startingGcode,G28 ; home all axes
      ; layerChangeGcode,
      ; retractionGcode,
      ; toolChangeGcode,
      ; endingGcode,M104 S0 ; turn off extruder,M140 S0 ; turn off bed,G28 ; home all axes,M84 ; disable motors
      ; exportFileFormat,gcode

      G90
      M82
      M106 S0
      M109 S220 T0

      G28 ; home all axes
      ; process new process
      ; layer 1, Z = 0.174
      T0
      G92 E0.0000
      G1 E-1.0000 F1800
      ; feature skirt
      ; tool H0.174 W0.630
      G1 Z0.400 F12000
      G1 X25.364 Y-11.093 F12000
      G1 Z0.174 F12000
      G1 E0.0500 F1800
      G92 E0.0000
      G1 X25.668 Y-9.991 E0.0469 F1500

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      • Phaedrux
        Phaedrux Moderator last edited by

        Can you post the full gcode file?

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        • grabercars
          grabercars last edited by

          It is almost 30Mb in size.

          Here is a Google-Drive link

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          • bot
            bot last edited by

            Is it possible that someone accidentally clicked on something in a web interface or pressed a button on the PanelDue or accidentally bumped into the LCD panel, causing the tool to deselect?

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            • Phaedrux
              Phaedrux Moderator @grabercars last edited by

              @grabercars said in Attempting to extrude with no tool selected - During Print:

              It is almost 30Mb in size.

              Here is a Google-Drive link

              Your link is set to private, so I can't get it. Request sent though.

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              • grabercars
                grabercars @Phaedrux last edited by

                @phaedrux sorry. try this

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                • grabercars
                  grabercars @bot last edited by

                  @bot It is not. The panel and all electronics are located at the top of the machine.

                  alt text

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                  • Phaedrux
                    Phaedrux Moderator last edited by

                    What firmware versions are you running?

                    I can't see anything obvious in the gcode file, and can't think of a reason why it would deselect a tool.

                    Were there any other error messages in the gcode console? Perhaps a heater fault?

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                    • grabercars
                      grabercars @Phaedrux last edited by

                      @phaedrux I didn't see anything in the code either.

                      Firmware is all updated fresh last week. I'm away from the machine and can give you the M115 response later today.

                      The printer has been restarted since the issue and I didn't see anything temp related but I may have missed it.

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                      • grabercars
                        grabercars @Phaedrux last edited by

                        @phaedrux said in Attempting to extrude with no tool selected - During Print:

                        What firmware versions are you running?

                        M115 returns : Version 2.02(rtos) electronics duet wifi 1.02 or later. Date 2018-12-24b1

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                        • Phaedrux
                          Phaedrux Moderator last edited by

                          If it happens again, try to scan through the console page to see any other error messages, and send a M122 to get a diagnostic report.

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                          • dc42
                            dc42 administrators last edited by

                            Also you might want to turn logging on.

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                            • jaurand
                              jaurand last edited by

                              i also am getting these same error messages during a print. really confused as what could be happening as they occur at about 6hrs in two separate prints

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                              • dc42
                                dc42 administrators @jaurand last edited by

                                @jaurand said in Attempting to extrude with no tool selected - During Print:

                                i also am getting these same error messages during a print. really confused as what could be happening as they occur at about 6hrs in two separate prints

                                Have you searched your GCode file for T commands, and checked that they all refer to tools that you have created using M563 commands in config,g?

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                                • jaurand
                                  jaurand @dc42 last edited by jaurand

                                  @dc42 I have not, as the GCode file is 45MB and I was able to successfully complete other smaller prints with no issue. I only have one tool and it starts the print just fine. Would it be better to put the T command in Cura in the startup file section? (sorry at work and not sure of the exact term)

                                  The only odd thing I can think may be an issue is I used Curas "Print on my Printer" selection rather than uploading the file to Duet and then printing from the browser.

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                                  • jaurand
                                    jaurand @dc42 last edited by jaurand

                                    @dc42 just ran the same file and completed without any error, only difference was uploading it directly to duetwifi and starting print from web browser.

                                    There must have been an error when having Cura begin the print and the file might have corrupted on the transfer I suppose?

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                                    • dc42
                                      dc42 administrators @jaurand last edited by

                                      @jaurand said in Attempting to extrude with no tool selected - During Print:

                                      There must have been an error when having Cura begin the print and the file might have corrupted on the transfer I suppose?

                                      It does sound like that. You may have a USB ground loop, see the wiki for details.

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                                      • jaurand
                                        jaurand last edited by

                                        @dc42 said in Attempting to extrude with no tool selected - During Print:

                                        USB ground loop

                                        well i got the same error again last night. I'm not even connected via USB is the thing, all over wifi

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                                        • dc42
                                          dc42 administrators @jaurand last edited by dc42

                                          1. Do you have logging enabled (M929)? If so, is there anything of interest in the log file?

                                          2. Did the error occur in the same place as previously?

                                          3. If you upload the file back to your PC from the Duet, does it compare exactly with the original?

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                                          • jaurand
                                            jaurand @dc42 last edited by

                                            @dc42 said in Attempting to extrude with no tool selected - During Print:

                                            1. Do you have logging enabled (M929)? If so, is there anything of interest in the log file?

                                            2. Did the error occur in the same place as previously?

                                            3. If you upload the file back to your PC from the Duet, does it compare exactly with the original?

                                            1. I do not have logging enabled on the config file itself, but I did export the console log file and it only thing that states was the error attempting to extrude with no tool selected, literally an hour after i first started the print.

                                            2. This error occurred much earlier than last time, on layer 2 of the print rather than 8 hours into my previous print.

                                            3. Comparing the file (checked early in the file since error occurred at layer 2) everything looks the same.

                                            At least positive thing to note since once the error occurs the printer does continue to print just does not extrude so at least I do not have a spaghetti monster mess of filament

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                                            • deckingman
                                              deckingman @jaurand last edited by

                                              @jaurand said in Attempting to extrude with no tool selected - During Print:

                                              ........................................................
                                              The only odd thing I can think may be an issue is I used Curas "Print on my Printer" selection rather than uploading the file to Duet and then printing from the browser.

                                              That is the most likley cause IMO. To prove it one way or another, try uploading the file and printing from the SD card.

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                                              • dc42
                                                dc42 administrators @jaurand last edited by

                                                @jaurand, does your system include a PanelDue, and if so, how long is the cable and what baud rate are you using for its connection?

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                                                • jaurand
                                                  jaurand @dc42 last edited by

                                                  @dc42 It does include a Paneldue, baudrate is set to 57600 on both the panel and in the config file using M575.

                                                  At work at the moment so not able to be exact on cable length but its not super long, maybe 12 to 16 inches.

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                                                  • dc42
                                                    dc42 administrators last edited by

                                                    Please send M575 P1 to your Duet from the console and check that the response includes "requires checksum".

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                                                    • jaurand
                                                      jaurand @dc42 last edited by

                                                      @dc42 said in Attempting to extrude with no tool selected - During Print:

                                                      M575 P1

                                                      Yep requires check sum

                                                      M575 P1
                                                      Channel 1: baud rate 57600, requires checksum

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