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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators
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      I hope to make an announcement regarding price and availability soon.

      I have updated the assembly instructions at https://duet3d.com/wiki/Smart_effector_and_carriage_adapters_for_delta_printer to cover programming the sensitivity of the nozzle contact probe using the new M672 command, and to reflect changes between the prototype and production effector.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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      • DADIYundefined
        DADIY
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        @dc42:

        I hope to make an announcement regarding price and availability soon.

        I have updated the assembly instructions at https://duet3d.com/wiki/Smart_effector_and_carriage_adapters_for_delta_printer to cover programming the sensitivity of the nozzle contact probe using the new M672 command, and to reflect changes between the prototype and production effector.

        Will you be selling the arms and ball studs too or will these need to be sourced directly from Hayden?

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        • A Former User?
          A Former User
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          @DADIY:

          Will you be selling the arms and ball studs too or will these need to be sourced directly from Hayden?

          I have a sneaky feeling you didnt actually read the whole thread, the quote below was taken from page ONE

          cough

          @T3P3Tony:

          @Jimborr:

          Any chance you or T3P3 will make custom length Haydn Huntley magnetic arms and sell it all as a kit with the PCB?

          We will certainly explore collaborating with Haydn on purchasing his mag arms in larger volumes to bundle with the effectors, once we get closer to a production version. That makes sense for people in the UK/Europe at least (it makes less sense to import them from the US just to ship them back).

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          • DADIYundefined
            DADIY
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            @CaLviNx:

            @DADIY:

            Will you be selling the arms and ball studs too or will these need to be sourced directly from Hayden?

            I have a sneaky feeling you didnt actually read the whole thread, the quote below was taken from page ONE

            cough

            @T3P3Tony:

            @Jimborr:

            Any chance you or T3P3 will make custom length Haydn Huntley magnetic arms and sell it all as a kit with the PCB?

            We will certainly explore collaborating with Haydn on purchasing his mag arms in larger volumes to bundle with the effectors, once we get closer to a production version. That makes sense for people in the UK/Europe at least (it makes less sense to import them from the US just to ship them back).

            No, this answer says they would explore it, I'm now asking as they are almost ready to announce pricing/availability whether this will include an option on arms. If it doesn't then I can order from the US now so that I have them in good time for when the effector kits become available.

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            • A Former User?
              A Former User
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              I have the utmost confidence in the fact that David, Tony & Roland will fully appraise us of the available combinations when they become available. no matter how infuriating it is (for me) to be waiting for the release.

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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators
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                Thi is being discussed right now, but Initially I think there will be these options:

                1. PCB effector, carriage adapters and connector kit only. This is for customers who will not be using a E3Dv6 hot end.

                2. As #1 plus custom heatsink to replace the standard E3Dv6 heatsink.

                T3P3 (who do the order processing and shipping for Duet3D), Filastruder and some of our other distributors are also E3D resellers. So it's likely that they will provide an option to buy the rest of the E3Dv6 parts at the same time, probably with a choice of thermistor or PT100 temperature sensor.

                As Tony said already, we are looking at stocking Haydn's magnetic rods for the benefit of customers in the UK and Europe. I don't know whether we will have them by the time we start shipping the effector.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                • saffiundefined
                  saffi
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                  Would it help if we pre-ordered or reserved these so a more accurate order count can be made?

                  Also, are there advantages to using a four-wire PT100 sensor or is that mostly for extremely fine tuned temperature ranges?

                  Prusa i3 Style Printer with Duet WiFi, E3D Volcano, Bondtech BMG

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators
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                    I hope we will have news on a possible pre-order for the effector soon. We don't need to have one for the numbers, we're having plenty made because we believe it will sell well. I should have the first production units to test at the end of this week.

                    The advantage of a 4-wire connection is that the resistance of the wires and connectors gets cancelled out so that it doesn't affect the reading. However, E3D doesn't make a 4-wire PT100 cartridge yet. So I have a 2-wire PT100 plugged into the effector, and 4 conductors in an an 8-core cable back to the Duet. The other 4 cores are used for the Z probe connections.

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                    • saffiundefined
                      saffi
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                      It will be nice to rule out bed tilt from the new probe with a fixed bed, the variable height readings at different probe locations is the only slight weakness of the FSR sensor arrangement (and it's only a .05mm variation in my experience, which can be effectively ignore for most things).

                      I need to create an OpenSCAD design for a belt attachment for the PCB carriage. What are the screws spacing for a standard linear rail / the PCB carriage? I can probably make a temporary design that people can use if they are waiting on an aluminum carriage tensioner to ship.

                      Prusa i3 Style Printer with Duet WiFi, E3D Volcano, Bondtech BMG

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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators
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                        The fixing holes on the carriage adapter are four M3 size holes on a 20mm square.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                        • fcwiltundefined
                          fcwilt
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                          Well unless it will be cost me an arm and two legs I will be ordering a few.

                          Frederick

                          Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                          • saffiundefined
                            saffi
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                            @dc42:

                            The fixing holes on the carriage adapter are four M3 size holes on a 20mm square.

                            Sounds easy enough. If I create something useful, I'll post the design.

                            Prusa i3 Style Printer with Duet WiFi, E3D Volcano, Bondtech BMG

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                            • Dougal1957undefined
                              Dougal1957
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                              @dc42:

                              The hot end mounting hasn't changed. We managed to squeeze in 3 extra mounting holes in the production version, see https://duet3d.com/wiki/Smart_effector_and_carriage_adapters_for_delta_printer#Connectors_and_Wiring.

                              Might be worth giving the dimensions of the additional mounting Holes David.

                              Just so people can start working on mounting plates for different hotends.

                              Doug

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                              • DADIYundefined
                                DADIY
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                                DC42 - Just wondering if the wiring shown in the BOM for your Kossel design is still valid for the production version of the smart effector?

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                                • jannisjundefined
                                  jannisj
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                                  I have been looking at the Zesty Nimble remote direct drive extruder.
                                  Would it be difficult getting this to work with the pcb effector?

                                  Any thoughts on making a dual hotend pcb effector?
                                  It would be really nice to print supports with pva on extruder 2 🙂

                                  -Jannis

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                                  • Dougal1957undefined
                                    Dougal1957
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                                    The Zesty Nimble already will work on this effector exactly what I have on my Beta test one.

                                    Doug

                                    Sorry for the poor image Quality but you get the Idea

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                                    • Hergonowayundefined
                                      Hergonoway
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                                      Dumb question, there's a jumper to switch from 12 to 24v, is it just to select the VIN you've got right, it doesn't let you plug 12v fan on a 24 VIN ?

                                      Delta goes BrrrRRRRrrrrrRRRRrrr

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                                      • Dougal1957undefined
                                        Dougal1957
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                                        I Suspect and am sure David will confirm that it is to allow for the LED's to work of both a 12 and 24V system and that the Fans still need to be suitable for the Vin that you are using.

                                        at least that's how I have mine set up.

                                        Doug

                                        It is absolutley the bees knees as well I am getting spot on results from my autocal on the delta of dev's of 6-7 microns and a pretty flat bed map as well.

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                                        • Rommieundefined
                                          Rommie
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                                          Is there a spot to use a beard air system on the effector too not. It iced any holes for a pass through. I know Doug, myself, luckless and Brian to name a couple have this installed.

                                          I'm jealous of Doug getting to try that lol I might go steal it lol

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                                          • Dougal1957undefined
                                            Dougal1957
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                                            No there isn't Rommie But I have designed a part to replace there Fan attachment so that the Berdair tube can be fitted but it may need adjusting slightly depending on the Diameter of the pipe that hopefully you have sent up to me lol.

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