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    • Bewaren
      Bewaren last edited by

      I have almost set everything up now, all I am unable to sort is the print cooling fan, the heat sink fan I have wired into the continuously powered fan pins and is working fine. However the print cooling fan I have is a 24v fan and I have it wired too fan0, I assumed I would be able to control it via these pins but I am new to the duet board, any help would be great

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      • deckingman
        deckingman @Bewaren last edited by

        @bewaren Need a bit more info than that. https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/5909/guide-for-posting-requests-for-help

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        • dc42
          dc42 administrators last edited by

          Yes, the print cooling fan is best connected to the Fan0 output. Make sure you get the red and black wires the right way round.

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          • Bewaren
            Bewaren @dc42 last edited by

            @dc42 the wiring is 100% correct, what is the output voltage for those pins?, I am using a 24v fan. Also how do I assign the fan to the tool, I believe I have it assigned already but I am unsure as I am new to duet control boards

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            • Bewaren
              Bewaren @deckingman last edited by

              @deckingman what info do you require?

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              • deckingman
                deckingman @Bewaren last edited by

                @bewaren said in Duet Ethernet with 24v fan:

                @deckingman what info do you require?

                What is the actual problem ? Saying "all I am unable to sort is the print cooling fan" doesn't actually tell me much.

                Are you having difficulty wiring it up? Are you having difficulty configuring it? Have you tried sending any commands to control it via the web console? If so, what commands have you sent and what happened when you sent them? Does all of that work but when you print something then fan does nor work as you expect? If not, what does happen?

                In a nutshell, can you provide more information as per the link I supplied.

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                • Bewaren
                  Bewaren @deckingman last edited by

                  @deckingman the fan is wired up correctly, I am unable to control it at all, I am unsure if its because I haven't got it allocated to the correct tool, or if a 24v fan can be powered via the fan0 pins.

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                  • deckingman
                    deckingman @Bewaren last edited by

                    @bewaren said in Duet Ethernet with 24v fan:

                    @deckingman the fan is wired up correctly, I am unable to control it at all, I am unsure if its because I haven't got it allocated to the correct tool, or if a 24v fan can be powered via the fan0 pins.

                    If it's a 24 v fan AND if your PSU is 24 V (you haven't told us) AND you have wired it correctly, AND that fan will work with pwm AND/ OR you have configure an appropriate PWM value AND you have disabled thermostatic mode AND you use the right command, THEN it should work.

                    So, last time of asking. What commands have you tried? How have you got it configured?

                    i.e. if you post your configuration file, then one of us will be able to help you. Otherwise we can only make guesses.

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                    • Bewaren
                      Bewaren last edited by

                      I am unsure as to the commands I need to entre to configure an appropriate PWM value and how to disable thermostatic mode. This is how my config.g file is setup currently.


                      ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 1.21)
                      ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                      ;
                      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2 on Sun Jul 28 2019 00:07:37 GMT+0100 (British Summer Time)

                      ; General preferences
                      G90 ; Send absolute coordinates...
                      M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves

                      M667 S1 ; Select CoreXY mode

                      ; Network
                      M550 P"My Printer" ; Set machine name
                      M551 P"Printer" ; Set password
                      M552 P0.0.0.0 S1 ; Enable network and acquire dynamic address via DHCP
                      M586 P0 S1 ; Enable HTTP
                      M586 P1 S0 ; Disable FTP
                      M586 P2 S0 ; Disable Telnet

                      ; Drives
                      M569 P0 S0 ; Physical drive 0 goes backwards
                      M569 P1 S1 ; Physical drive 1 goes forwards
                      M569 P2 S0 ; Physical drive 2 goes backwards
                      M569 P3 S0 ; Physical drive 3 goes backwards
                      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
                      M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z400.00 E837.00 ; Set steps per mm
                      M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 E120.00 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                      M203 X30000.00 Y30000.00 Z180.00 E3600.00 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                      M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20.00 E250.00 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                      M906 X800.00 Y800.00 Z800.00 E800.00 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                      M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                      ; Axis Limits
                      M208 X0 Y-38 Z0 S1 ; Set axis minima
                      M208 X200 Y200 Z200 S0 ; Set axis maxima

                      ; Endstops
                      M574 X1 Y1 Z1 S0 ; Set active low and disabled endstops

                      ; Z-Probe
                      M558 P0 H5 F120 T6000 ; Disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
                      M557 X15:185 Y-23:195 S20 ; Define mesh grid

                      ; Heaters
                      M305 P0 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                      M143 H0 S80 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 80C
                      M305 P1 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                      M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

                      ; Fans
                      M106 P0 S0.1 I0 F500 H T45 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
                      M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on

                      ; Tools
                      M563 P0 D0 H1 ; Define tool 0
                      G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
                      G10 P0 R0 S0 ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                      ; Automatic saving after power loss is not enabled

                      ; Custom settings are not configured

                      M501

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                      • Bewaren
                        Bewaren @deckingman last edited by

                        @deckingman The Power Supply is 24v yes, sorry forgot to note that.

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                        • deckingman
                          deckingman @Bewaren last edited by deckingman

                          @bewaren Now we are getting somewhere. That wasn't so hard was it?

                          One problem that leaps out at me is this line M106 P0 S0.1 I0 F500 H T45

                          P0 is the fan in question. That line sets it to come on thermostatically with a heater but you haven't defined a heater, just an "H" with no number. But for part cooling, we don't want it to run when a heater comes on. We want it to run when we enter an M106 Snn command (which is what the slicer does).

                          So delete that line and try this to start with. ....

                          M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1

                          Edit...........
                          BTW - all the information is documented here https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_M106_Fan_On

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                          • Phaedrux
                            Phaedrux Moderator last edited by

                            And here: https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connecting_and_configuring_fans

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                            • Bewaren
                              Bewaren @deckingman last edited by

                              @deckingman Replaced it with that line but I dont seem to be able to control it still, I can now see fan0 on the machine control tab but when turning it on and putting it to any % of power I get no movement still, any ideas?

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                              • Phaedrux
                                Phaedrux Moderator last edited by

                                Are you sure the fan is plugged into fan_0 and that the fan actually works?

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                                • Bewaren
                                  Bewaren @Phaedrux last edited by

                                  @phaedrux Plugged into the 3rd one along which I assume is fan0 https://gyazo.com/2029dbbba084fd17447f1fcaa5dea01d as the last 2 are always on fans, almost certain the fan works, its brand new but I dont have a 24v power supply spare to test it on.

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                                  • Phaedrux
                                    Phaedrux Moderator @Bewaren last edited by

                                    @bewaren how do you have the fan jumper set?

                                    If you plug the fan into an always on port does it work?

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                                    • Bewaren
                                      Bewaren last edited by

                                      Just tested it, doesnt seem too no. Do I need to take off one of the jumpers??

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                                      • Bewaren
                                        Bewaren @Phaedrux last edited by

                                        @phaedrux Tested the heatsink cooler fan on all connectors and it works on them, so unsure if the issue is the voltage for the print fan

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                                        • Phaedrux
                                          Phaedrux Moderator last edited by

                                          See the link above about connecting fans. It Explains.

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                                          • Phaedrux
                                            Phaedrux Moderator last edited by

                                            Are you sure the fan is 24v?
                                            If it doesn't work on the always on port it may be dead.

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                                            • Bewaren
                                              Bewaren @Phaedrux last edited by

                                              @phaedrux 24V DC fan, 2 pin output, wired up correctly, very confused as to what the issue could be now, the link shows how to use a 12v fan on a 24v output as far as I can tell, but I am very new to the technical terms used so may be misinterpreting it.

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                                              • Bewaren
                                                Bewaren @Phaedrux last edited by

                                                @phaedrux Tried 3 different fans now, none of them worked, ideas?

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                                                • Bewaren
                                                  Bewaren @Phaedrux last edited by

                                                  @phaedrux one thing I have noticed is the hotend cooling fan on the heat sink is in fact 12v and does function correctly but seems to be running faster than anticipated, when powered via 12v it is significantly slower than the current setup, so I am assuming it is a 24v output from the board however unsure as to how this is happening as I would imagine it would break the fan

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                                                  • Phaedrux
                                                    Phaedrux Moderator @Bewaren last edited by

                                                    @bewaren said in Duet Ethernet with 24v fan:

                                                    @phaedrux 24V DC fan, 2 pin output, wired up correctly, very confused as to what the issue could be now, the link shows how to use a 12v fan on a 24v output as far as I can tell, but I am very new to the technical terms used so may be misinterpreting it.

                                                    You need a buck converter to supply a 12v line into the v_fan jumper pin. But then all your fans need to be 12v.

                                                    If you have some 24v and some 12v you're going to have some issues. The hotend fan is being over volted and while it is working now it's likely to burn out when you least want it to happen.

                                                    Make sure the fans are all the same voltage and supply them with the correct voltage. It's as simple as that.

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                                                    • Bewaren
                                                      Bewaren @Phaedrux last edited by

                                                      @phaedrux Alright ill order a 24v fan for the hotend heatsink to solve that issue then, so any idea on what else I could try to get the print fan working?, it's 24v, I've tried 3 of them now with no luck on the always on pins and the fan0 to fan2 pins, I'm certain it isn't the fans them selves, the pins work fine when I try power the 12v fan but they over voltage the fan, however the 24v fan simply doesn't do anything. Suggestions?

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