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    mpentenr @mpentenr
    last edited by mpentenr 18 Oct 2019, 16:39

    @mpentenr said in Using Duet 3Mainboard with external stepper drivers:

    @dc42 said in Using Duet 3Mainboard with external stepper drivers:

    Thanks. Are you using the encoder input on the stepper driver for the pellet extruder? What is the maximum rotation speed needed by the pellet extruder motor?

    No, I am not using the encoder input (at the moment, perhaps I need to).
    The max rotational speed will be arounf 500 rpm, because of an 10:1 gearbox on the stepper, so up to 50 rpm at the pelletextruderspindle

    At the moment the pellet extruder is highly experimental, so I don't know the exact values. Time and experiments will show 😉

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      mpentenr
      last edited by 10 Feb 2020, 16:49

      @mpentenr said in Using Duet 3Mainboard with external stepper drivers:

      @dc42 Are there any news on this topic ?

      Hi dc42, are there any news on driverless duet3 or addon boards for driving motors with external drivers ?!

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        dc42 administrators @mpentenr
        last edited by 10 Feb 2020, 17:24

        @mpentenr said in Using Duet 3Mainboard with external stepper drivers:

        @mpentenr said in Using Duet 3Mainboard with external stepper drivers:

        @dc42 Are there any news on this topic ?
        

        Hi dc42, are there any news on driverless duet3 or addon boards for driving motors with external drivers ?!

        We have a few tool board prototypes modified to drive a single external driver at 5V signals levels. We will turn this into a production item. We still need to lay it out on a PCB, but that shouldn't take long, because the design is based on our Tool Board.

        We haven't yet made a decision on whether to make a driverless version of the main board.

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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          Kyle_55
          last edited by 14 Feb 2020, 23:00

          DC42,
          I would be interested in a driver-less version as well. Don't get me wrong, those 5160's are nice but I already have $200 invested in my hobby CNC's external drivers and when / if I make the switch from the UC100 to the Duet , I will also be getting a Duet wifi for my 3d printer. The thought of spending $400 + on the upgrade while shelving $400 in parts with no use is a real bummer. And I get that an $800 hit is nothing for most, but for a guy just trying to learn a new hobby....

          Kyle

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            wi10008
            last edited by wi10008 24 Feb 2020, 16:20

            Hi @dc42,

            I'm interested in triggering camera exposures that synchronise with the X/Y axis motors. My camera has a 5V logic trigger input. Would the driverless Tool Board work to drive the camera as if it were an extuder?

            I'd like to use the steps/mm setting as "exposures"/mm.

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              Danal
              last edited by 24 Feb 2020, 17:01

              Yes.

              But you can do this today. There are plenty of IO ports with outputs. These are 3.3V, but 3.3 V out to 5 V in logic almost always works.

              You then trigger the camera with M42

              Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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                dc42 administrators @Danal
                last edited by 24 Feb 2020, 21:32

                @Danal said in Using Duet 3Mainboard with external stepper drivers:

                Yes.

                But you can do this today. There are plenty of IO ports with outputs. These are 3.3V, but 3.3 V out to 5 V in logic almost always works.

                You then trigger the camera with M42

                On the v1.0 Duet 3 main boards there is also the output marked Laser/VFD, which is 5V.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                  FBG
                  last edited by 10 Apr 2020, 15:49

                  Any news about this?
                  For the moment there are not possibility of connect a external stepper/servo driver?

                  It is the only thing that blocks me from buying Duet3, and I must continue buying Duet2 with expansion board.

                  And the Duet3 have important things that i want start to approach immediately.

                  Best Regards

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                    alil2096
                    last edited by 25 Apr 2020, 10:00

                    Good orning, any news for this expansion board?

                    Because I use the duet 2 wifi for 2 external motor..

                    if even the duet 3 had the possibility to connect I would buy it immediately!

                    Thanks,

                    Andrea

                    www.lillia.net

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                      nhof
                      last edited by 28 Apr 2020, 19:47

                      @dc42 I am also interested in external drivers for Duet 3.

                      Any update on plans / schedule?

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                        dc42 administrators @nhof
                        last edited by 29 Apr 2020, 21:28

                        @nhof said in Using Duet 3Mainboard with external stepper drivers:

                        @dc42 I am also interested in external drivers for Duet 3.

                        Any update on plans / schedule?

                        The prototype external stepper driver boards were ordered some time ago. They are taking a little longer than usual because both the assembly companies we use had to shut down temporarily in order to rearrange their production lines to facilitate social distancing, and even now are probably operating at reduced capacity. We should be getting them soon.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                          drack
                          last edited by 24 May 2020, 17:04

                          I am also wanting to use my duet 3 board for an application that uses hybrid stepper motor drivers. Unfortunately it looks like I will have to use the board on a project that has small enough motors for the onboard drivers until you make an expansion board.

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                            dc42 administrators
                            last edited by 25 May 2020, 09:54

                            If you want to use a Duet 3 but not wait for the expansion boards, then these https://www.chip45.com/products/sammy-c21-1.0_atmel_smart_arm_sam_module_board_samc21_usb_dual_two_can.php are likely to be an option soon. I already have the firmware build for them and I have a couple on order for testing.

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                              dc42 administrators
                              last edited by dc42 13 Jun 2020, 14:51

                              Duet 3 external stepper driver prototype boards have arrived and passed all tests. https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Duet_3_Expansion_1XD

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                jballard86 @dc42
                                last edited by 14 Jun 2020, 22:36

                                @dc42 Thats awesome!

                                when can we expect them to be available for purchase?

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                                  kornev.online 0 @dc42
                                  last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 22:23

                                  @dc42 Hello!

                                  I'm very interested in variant with buffers for external drivers.
                                  I'll help with PCB tracing and prototype testing if I have approved schematics in KiCAD.

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