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    • skayredundefined
      skayred @dc42
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      @dc42 hello, here is what was printed with Matter Control:
      photo_2019-11-10_13-14-00.jpg photo_2019-11-10_13-13-57.jpg

      so, walls quality is more or less okay so in the previous example, I suspect, the problem is overextrusion after retract. According to S3D troubleshooting guide, it could be solved by the negative extra restart distance (or I have problems in the extruder - incorrect low speed or jerk).

      But, according to Duet docs, extra restart distance is generally bad practice and pressure advance should be used instead.

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      • denkeundefined
        denke
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        Hi @skayred !

        It's hard to see from this angle, but it seems to me that your part is solid?
        If so, any (even a very very very slight amount) of over-extrusion can cause effects like this, because there is no other place the excess material can go but off the side of the part (or build up on top and cause the head to eventually collide with it) Plus as DC said maybe each layer is printed in different direction, and there you have it.

        If the part is indeed solid, then please try to print it not 100% solid, or decrease the extrusion factor a few percent (10% to be sure for the test) and show us the results

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        • skayredundefined
          skayred @denke
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          @denke hello, it is not even close to be solid, it was 25% infill 🙂 But perimeters are printed inside-out, could it be the problem?

          @dc42 thanks for the advice! I just found that bed was for some reason in bang-bang mode indeed, doing PID tuning right now, let's see how it will go after

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          • denkeundefined
            denke
            last edited by

            @skayred Probably not ... maybe if you have many perimiters, but unlikely

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            • skayredundefined
              skayred @denke
              last edited by

              @denke in that case, maybe I am missing some calibration models? Like, I didn't calibrate extrusion width and so on, just started printing test cubes with 3 perimeters at once. If you know what to do first, it would be nice to hear

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              • mrehorstdmdundefined
                mrehorstdmd
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                I think you need to fix the backlash in the mechanism before you can calibrate the extruder. Once the layers stack properly on top of each other you can adjust extruder calibration based on line/wall width measurement.

                https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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                • skayredundefined
                  skayred @mrehorstdmd
                  last edited by

                  @mrehorstdmd hello,

                  just checked all towers - it slides properly, and I have preloaded PTFE nuts there, so I didnt find any play there.

                  @dc42 after PID tune, I repeated very first G-code, it seems to be just a little better (no random lines) but overextrusion right at the beginning is still there. Going to experiment with negative restart distance

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                  • skayredundefined
                    skayred
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                    Small update - I just printed 66mm diameter turbine impeller and identified interesting thing - one arm ball at one exact position was going out of magnet's center. I have added some bearing grease, and it prevented the balls from escaping, so impeller was printed without any issues, just really small bowden scars. Still not dimensionally accurate but I think it was the problem

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                    • skayredundefined
                      skayred
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                      Another update - seems to be fixed. What I did:

                      • First of all, I have replaced all steppers - old ones were faulty, their shafts were possible to move along, about 3-5mm. New ones don't have these issues and work normally on 2A

                      • Replaced 6-factor calibration with 8 factors

                      • And finally, adjusted cartesian scale

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                      • Edgars Batnaundefined
                        Edgars Batna @skayred
                        last edited by Edgars Batna

                        @skayred said in Wierd lines on the test cube sides:

                        • First of all, I have replaced all steppers - old ones were faulty, their shafts were possible to move along, about 3-5mm. New ones don't have these issues and work normally on 2A

                        Move in the direction of the shaft? This might be by design. All steppers that I've disassembled so far were not constricted to carry any load on the shaft other than rotational. If a stepper motor is new, then it might just have enough friction in the internal parts for it to appear to work, but this will change the longer it runs or depending on the temperature. The coils were centered vertically only by the magnet from my observations.

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