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    • NL61undefined
      NL61 @droftarts
      last edited by

      @droftarts
      Hi Ian, thanks, I tried this out already. Always the same.
      My homex looks like this now:

      G91 ; relative positioning
      G1 S2 Z5 F1800 ; lift Z relative to current position
      G1 S1 X-395 F1800 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
      G1 S2 X5 F9000 ; go back a few mm
      G1 S1 X-395 F360 ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass)
      G1 S2 Z-5 F1800 ; lower Z again
      G90 ; absolute positioning

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      • Vetiundefined
        Veti
        last edited by

        this looks ok.

        please verify that you are changing the files in the sys folder and not in the macro folder

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        • droftartsundefined
          droftarts administrators
          last edited by

          The link to the CoreXY homing files page needs updating; better to use G1 H#..., not G1 S#..., as use of the 'S' parameter for homing is deprecated (though still works in RRF2.x); see G1.

          You shouldn't be using H2/S2. This moves the individual motor, so the nozzle will move diagonally. Just use H1. You don't need to specify H/S on the Z moves at all, unless it's likely to be near the endstop.

          What does it actually do during homing X? Step through the Gcode line by line (send each line via the console) and report what happens.

          Ian

          Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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          • deckingmanundefined
            deckingman @NL61
            last edited by

            @NL61 said in H-Bot Endstop problem:

            Comments in bold.

            G91 ; relative positioning - this is OK

            G1 S2 Z5 F1800 ; lift Z relative to current position - this is OK too but you should use H2 here for the single Z motor

            G1 S1 X-395 F1800 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass) - this is OK but again, use H instead of S

            G1 S2 X5 F9000 ; go back a few mm - before this move, the axis has already been homed so you don't need the S2 parameter - remove it.

            G1 S1 X-395 F360 ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass) - this is OK.

            G1 S2 Z-5 F1800 ; lower Z again - this should be OK but use H instead of S.

            G90 ; absolute positioning - this Ok

            Alternatively, you could put M564 H0 at the start of the homing file and take out all the S2 or H2 parameters. Then put M564 H1 at the end.

            Ian
            https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
            https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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            • NL61undefined
              NL61 @deckingman
              last edited by

              @deckingman
              I changed everything as you wrote. It still crashes into the frame.

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              • Vetiundefined
                Veti
                last edited by

                can you execute the commands from deckingman in the console one by one manually

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                • NL61undefined
                  NL61 @Veti
                  last edited by

                  @Veti
                  I did so. After G1 H1 X-395 F1800 it crashed.

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                  • droftartsundefined
                    droftarts administrators @NL61
                    last edited by

                    @NL61 Do you have a probe set up in config.g? Please post your whole config.g.

                    Ian

                    Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                    • NL61undefined
                      NL61 @droftarts
                      last edited by

                      @droftarts

                      Here it is:

                      G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
                      M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                      M550 P"Olli3" ; set printer name

                      M669 K1 ; switch to CoreXY mode

                      ; Network
                      M552 S1 P172.21.163.110 ; enable network
                      M553 P255.255.255.0
                      M554 P 172.21.163.2

                      M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
                      M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
                      M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet

                      ; Drives
                      M569 P0 S0 ; physical drive 0 goes forwards
                      M569 P1 S0 ; physical drive 1 goes forwards
                      M569 P2 S1 ; physical drive 2 goes backwards
                      M569 P3 S0 ; physical drive 3 goes forwards
                      M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3 ; set drive mapping
                      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                      M92 X32.00 Y32.00 Z640.00 E460.00 ; set steps per mm
                      M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 E120.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                      M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z180.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                      M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20.00 E250.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                      M906 X1600 Y1600 Z500 E500 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                      M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                      ; Axis Limits
                      M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
                      M208 X390 Y290 Z100 S0 ; set axis maxima

                      ; Endstops
                      M574 X1 Y1 Z2 S0 ; set active high endstops

                      ; Z-Probe
                      M558 P0 H5 F120 T6000 ; disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
                      M557 X15:215 Y15:195 S20 ; define mesh grid

                      ; Heaters
                      M140 H-1 ; disable heated bed
                      M305 P1 T100000 B4725 C7.060000e-8 R4700 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                      M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

                      ; Fans
                      M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1 ; set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                      M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on

                      ; Tools
                      M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
                      G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                      G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                      ; Custom settings are not defined

                      ; Miscellaneous
                      M911 S20 R22 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss

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                      • Vetiundefined
                        Veti @NL61
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                        @NL61 said in H-Bot Endstop problem:

                        I did so. After G1 H1 X-395 F1800 it crashed.

                        this is VERY strange.
                        if M119 says the endstop is triggered the G1 H1 command should stop when the endstop is triggered.

                        The Firmware version is the correct one.

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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators
                          last edited by

                          I agree, very strange. Typical causes of this type of problem would be:

                          • Endstops pulling the input low enough to light the LED, but not low enough to register as a low input to the processor. But in that case, M119 wouldn't show the endstops as triggered when you test them.
                          • X and Y endstop connections swapped
                          • Axis movement incorrect (easy to do on a CoreXY machine), for example G1 H1 X-395 is actually moving the Y axis, or is moving X away from the endstop switch.

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                          • NL61undefined
                            NL61 @dc42
                            last edited by

                            @dc42
                            thanks for answering,
                            I tried M119 serveral times for each axis, it always shows if triggered or not.
                            the endstops are not swapped and the movement goes to the correct direction.

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                            • deckingmanundefined
                              deckingman
                              last edited by

                              One thing that keeps leaping out at me from the config.g file, is the steps per mm for X and Y but I don't see what this would have bearing on the end stop triggering. But with a 16 tooth pulley, 2mm pitch, and 0.9 degree motors, the value is around 80 so having the steps per mm set to 32 would imply something like a 50 tooth pulley which is pretty huge. 32 steps @16x micro stepping is 2 full steps per mm or 100 mm per motor revolution using 1.8 degree motors.

                              Ian
                              https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                              https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                              • dc42undefined
                                dc42 administrators @NL61
                                last edited by dc42

                                @NL61 said in H-Bot Endstop problem:

                                @dc42
                                thanks for answering,
                                I tried M119 serveral times for each axis, it always shows if triggered or not.
                                the endstops are not swapped and the movement goes to the correct direction.

                                1. Can you confirm that the homex.g file looks exactly like the one you posted above when you open it in Duet Web Control?

                                2. If you try to home just X (by pressing the Home X button in Duet Web Control, or by sending G28 X), does movement stop if you trigger either the X or Y homing sensors manually?

                                Until you have homing working, you may wish to reduce the motor currents.

                                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                • NL61undefined
                                  NL61 @dc42
                                  last edited by

                                  @dc42
                                  once again the homex.g file:

                                  ; homex.g
                                  ; called to home the X axis
                                  ;
                                  ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.1.2 on Mon Nov 11 2019 14:44:06 GMT+0100 (MitteleuropƤische Normalzeit)
                                  G91 ; relative positioning
                                  G1 H2 Z5 F1800 ; lift Z relative to current position
                                  G1 H1 X-395 F1800 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
                                  G1 X5 F1800 ; go back a few mm
                                  G1 S1 X-395 F360 ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass)
                                  G1 H2 Z-5 F1800 ; lower Z again
                                  G90 ; absolute positioning

                                  I tried to home X and triggered both, X and Y Endstop. No reaction

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                                  • droftartsundefined
                                    droftarts administrators
                                    last edited by

                                    Could you try swapping your NPN sensor for a microswitch, just to check it's working correctly?

                                    Ian

                                    Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                                    • NL61undefined
                                      NL61 @droftarts
                                      last edited by

                                      @droftarts
                                      hmm, the micro switch is working in X and Y.
                                      The Sensors are MLM8-3002NA NPN, Schließer.
                                      24 V and a BAT43 Diode at the signal output.
                                      Why does the z-axis work? Its all the same setup.

                                      I have to leave now. Thank you all for your answers, if there are any ideas whalt I can di to get those sensors working, I`ll try tomorrow.

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                                      • dc42undefined
                                        dc42 administrators @NL61
                                        last edited by

                                        Those sensors have a blue wire that must be connected to ground. Where on the Duet have you connected them?

                                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                        • NL61undefined
                                          NL61 @dc42
                                          last edited by

                                          @dc42
                                          I connected 24V and Ground to the Power Supply.

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                                          • NL61undefined
                                            NL61
                                            last edited by

                                            I did some troubleshooting this morning. I connectet the X-Sensor to the Z-input and could stop the Z-axis with a piece of metal holding it to the X-Sensor. Same with the Y-Sensor. That tells me that the sensors work fine.
                                            Then I connectet Z-Motor and Sensor to the Y-connectors on the duet. The LED triggered but the motor did not stop. M119 says Y-Axis homed.
                                            Is it possible that there is a problem with the board?
                                            Or does anyone have an idea?

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