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    • Samuel235undefined
      Samuel235 @Phaedrux
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      @Phaedrux - I was doing this while it was printing also, it seems to be consistent on most layers if i remember correctly. I'm not currently running Z Hop, no.

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      • zaptaundefined
        zapta @Samuel235
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        @Samuel235 said in Pressure Advance seems to not be working.:

        @zapta Its bowden, around 650mm bowden length.

        0.22 for a 650mm bowden is very low, good for you. I got > 1.0 with 600mm 1.9mm capricon bowden and lowered it to 0.15 when switched to direct drive.

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        • Samuel235undefined
          Samuel235
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          I'm currently running some tests to attempt to calibrate it. I'm currently using CURA so I'm unable to force a seam to be in the middle of a flat face, so i'm using a cone print to put a seam on the face and to change PA as the print goes and then to find the best section. I'd be interested to know the calibration method you all face, do you all go for the python script that is floating around?

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator @Samuel235
            last edited by Phaedrux

            @Samuel235 said in Pressure Advance seems to not be working.:

            I'm currently using CURA so I'm unable to force a seam to be in the middle of a flat face

            It can be done in Cura.
            https://ultimaker.com/en/resources/52343-shell

            The options may be hidden by default. Use the gear icon on the shell heading to see any hidden options.

            Z seam alignment - User specified
            Z seam position - back
            Seam corner preference - none

            Produces the desired result. That's in 4.4.1. In older versions there was an X and Y position you could specify. The setting is still there in the settings visibility filter, but it's not being shown and I'm not sure what's blocking it. Regardless, setting it to back, front, left, or right works to align it to a face.

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            • Samuel235undefined
              Samuel235 @Phaedrux
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              @Phaedrux - Im on 4.2.1 and the XY position will not put it in the middle of a flat face for me and a few others I chat to. I will try their update shortly to see if that new option works for me.

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator @Samuel235
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                @Samuel235 The corner preference must be none as well.

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                • Samuel235undefined
                  Samuel235
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                  I have just updated my Cura, and still facing the same issues:

                  529ff7e2-dd34-4c61-afac-fabf0d4d3d61-image.png

                  Will attempt to find a work around later today using another slicer.

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                  • burtoogleundefined
                    burtoogle
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                    Re getting the z-seam in the middle of a flat face using Cura. Well, it can't be done using the UM releases but my Cura builds do now provide that capability. Setting the z-seam to user-defined and seam corner preference to none will enable this feature. You can find my releases at https://www.dropbox.com/sh/s43vqzmi4d2bqe2/AAADdYdSu9iwcKa0Knqgurm4a?dl=0. Please read the README.md file there for more info.

                    Here's an example, you can see the travel moves associated with the z-seam to the left of the middle of the flat area at the botttom of the image.

                    Screenshot_2020-01-02_07-49-20.png

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator @burtoogle
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                      @burtoogle said in Pressure Advance seems to not be working.:

                      Well, it can't be done using the UM releases but my Cura builds do now provide that capability.

                      Just one more reason to use your builds.

                      @Samuel235 I was going by memory on the settings and didn't realize that the stock Cura does not allow this.

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator @Samuel235
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                        @Samuel235 For what it's worth, setting the seam to a corner of the cube is also usable, it just makes finding the smoothest transition a little harder. You can also use a cylinder, but then you miss out on the corner bulge tuning.

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                        • Samuel235undefined
                          Samuel235
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                          Oh awesome, thank you for including your build @burtoogle!

                          @Phaedrux - I have been using a cone, I imagine this to be the same as a cylinder for the sake of this test, just the layers would get quicker as they go up, and I ranged from 0.1 to 0.9 PA, I didn't get any change in apperance of the seam at all across the range of PA values unfortunately. I will try with a cube tomorrow to test.

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator
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                            A cone might be ok. I think the fact the size is changing as it goes up would make it harder to see the difference in the seam since the layer time is a confounding factor.

                            The cube is probably the best option for this because you get up to speed over the 100mm length and the corners show the bulge and the seam on the face is clearly visible.

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                            • Samuel235undefined
                              Samuel235
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                              Currently printing a 100mm cube with a single skin, no infil. Seam is in the middle of the face at the back with the build of Cura linked above (Thanks @burtoogle). I have PA changing its value from 0.05 to 0.9 in 0.05 increments every 25 layers. Will see how this turns out.

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                              • Samuel235undefined
                                Samuel235
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                                Cube just completed:
                                Single Walled Cube Pressure Advance Test 01

                                As you can see throughout the range of 0.5 to 7 PA value there is no difference. This was with a jerk value of 8000mm/min. I’m dropping that jerk down to 4000mm/min now for another test. Should i expect to see any improvements with lowering the extruder acceleration value too?

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator @Samuel235
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                                  @Samuel235 something isn't right. There should definitely be some noticeable difference over such a wide range of 0.5 to 7.

                                  What command are you using?

                                  Can you post your config?

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                                  • Samuel235undefined
                                    Samuel235
                                    last edited by Samuel235

                                    Nothing has changed from the settings i posted originally, other than change to the extruder current limit. Do you want me to post them again (Asking as i’m not at my system at the moment but will get to it if needed) so you can confirm any typos were not made or something? I don’t believe there is anything i would have typoed as It was just a change of number not a command or anything.

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator
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                                      How are you changing the PA value? Via the console during the print, or is it scripted into the gcode file?

                                      I'm thinking it may not actually be getting applied because there should definitely be some visible result. At a value of 7 you'd likely see the extruder reversing dramatically.

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                                      • Samuel235undefined
                                        Samuel235 @Phaedrux
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                                        @Phaedrux - its hardcoded into the code, but i confirm it changes every 25 layers using the command line console. The extruder behaviour changes each time PA changes, i can confirm that. But nothing changes in the print.

                                        Im thinking PA is working but something is masking its effects, hence why i was thinking of changing jerk and possibly acceleration on the extruder.

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                                        • Phaedruxundefined
                                          Phaedrux Moderator
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                                          Are you still getting hiccups?

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                                          • Samuel235undefined
                                            Samuel235 @Phaedrux
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                                            @Phaedrux - This is a M122 just ran (around an hour after the print finished, this would still be reporting from the print, right?):

                                            M122
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                                            Used output buffers: 6 of 24 (20 max)
                                            === RTOS ===
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                                            Dynamic ram: 94256 of which 308 recycled
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                                            Tasks: NETWORK(ready,524) HEAT(blocked,1236) DUEX(suspended,156) MAIN(running,1668) IDLE(ready,160)
                                            Owned mutexes:
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                                            Last reset 75:55:33 ago, cause: software
                                            Last software reset at 2019-12-31 18:44, reason: User, spinning module GCodes, available RAM 10232 bytes (slot 2)
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                                            Error status: 16
                                            Free file entries: 10
                                            SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
                                            SD card longest block write time: 378.3ms, max retries 0
                                            MCU temperature: min 40.0, current 54.9, max 59.0
                                            Supply voltage: min 23.9, current 24.4, max 24.6, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
                                            Driver 0: standstill, SG min/max 0/1023
                                            Driver 1: standstill, SG min/max 0/1023
                                            Driver 2: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                            Driver 3: standstill, SG min/max 0/1023
                                            Driver 4: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                            Driver 5: standstill, SG min/max 0/270
                                            Driver 6: standstill, SG min/max 0/281
                                            Driver 7: standstill, SG min/max 0/284
                                            Driver 8: standstill, SG min/max 0/291
                                            Driver 9: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                            Date/time: 2020-01-03 22:40:42
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                                            Slowest loop: 149.85ms; fastest: 0.08ms
                                            I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0, resets 0
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                                            Hiccups: 0, FreeDm: 169, MinFreeDm: 145, MaxWait: 156472642ms
                                            Bed compensation in use: mesh, comp offset 0.000
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                                            === Heat ===
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                                            Heater 0 is on, I-accum = 0.0
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                                            Code queue is empty.
                                            === Network ===
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                                            HTTP sessions: 1 of 8
                                            - WiFi -
                                            Network state is running
                                            WiFi module is connected to access point
                                            Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 8
                                            WiFi firmware version 1.23
                                            WiFi MAC address 5c:cf:7f:76:71:05
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