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    • davidewenundefined
      davidewen @Norder
      last edited by

      @Norder
      PrusaSlicer Retraction settings;
      Length: 0.8
      Z lift: 0.4
      Speed: 40
      Min Travel: 2
      Retract on layer: off
      Min travel after retract: 2
      Wipe while retracting; on
      retract amount before wipe: 80%

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      • weed2allundefined
        weed2all @davidewen
        last edited by weed2all

        @davidewen try retracting a little bit more...like 0.85 or 0.90! Also reduce the retraction speed to something like 25 to 30
        Jerk values are to high!

        https://www.thingiverse.com/weed2all/designs

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        • Norderundefined
          Norder @davidewen
          last edited by

          @davidewen
          So far the settings look good.
          If you don't have stringing or other problems with blobs or similar, then the 0.8mm retraction path is probably OK. But it can change depending on the temperature and filament and then higher values would be more suitable, which could then go up to 1.5mm.

          That with the speed could reduce this gap at the Z-seam, as weed2all already wrote, 25-30 mm/s may be better values for you.

          If these changes don't bring any improvements, you could enter something under "Extra length on restart". Step up there by 0.1mm.
          This option of "Extra length on restart" is rarely used.

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          Soweit sehen die Einstellungen gut aus.
          Wenn Du kein Stringing hast oder sonstige Probleme mit Kleckse o.ä., dann sind die 0.8mm Rückzugsweg wohl OK. Es kann sich aber je nach Temperatur und Filament ändern und dann wären höhere Werte besser geeignet die dann gerne mal bis 1.5mm gehen könnten.

          Das mit der Geschwindigkeit könnte diesen Spalt an der Z-Naht verringern, wie weed2all bereits schrieb sind 25-30 mm/s gegebenenfalls bessere Werte für Dich.

          Sollten diese Änderungen keine Verbesserungen bringen, dann könntest Du bei "Extralänge bei Neustart" etwas eintragen. Dort Schrittweise mit 0.1mm herangehen.
          Diese Option der "Extralänge bei Neustart" wird eher selten genutzt.

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator @davidewen
            last edited by

            @davidewen said in Strange Blobbing on Layer Change:

            I've increased jerk in PrusaSlicer to the following;
            X: 32
            Y: 32
            Z: 32
            E: 20

            Where did you change that?

            I assume that's in mm/s?

            Does prusa slicer now allow per move jerk settings as well as acceleration? I didn't think so.

            Is your prusa slicer set to RepRap gcode flavour?

            Can you share a sliced gcode file?

            Your config file still has the limits set very low, so unless your slicer is actually sending M566/M203/M201 commands to change the limits during a print you are being limited by the config.g

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            • Norderundefined
              Norder @Phaedrux
              last edited by Norder

              @Phaedrux

              Does prusa slicer now allow per move jerk settings as well as acceleration? I didn't think so.

              The PrusaSlicer has its own jerk setting (mm/s), maximum acceleration (mm/s²) and maximum feed (mm/s)
              for each axis.

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator @Norder
                last edited by

                @Norder said in Strange Blobbing on Layer Change:

                The PrusaSlicer has its own jerk setting

                Where? You mean in the machine limits?

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                • Norderundefined
                  Norder @Phaedrux
                  last edited by

                  @Phaedrux
                  Yes, exactly.
                  But it is clear that the upper limit is determined by the config.g.

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                  • davidewenundefined
                    davidewen @Norder
                    last edited by

                    @Norder @Phaedrux @weed2all

                    Thank you all for responding.
                    I will not be able to check settings or respond back with said settings until late next week.

                    Cheers

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                    • davidewenundefined
                      davidewen @Phaedrux
                      last edited by

                      @Phaedrux

                      Yes, I made those changes in PrusaSlicer.
                      Are you suggesting that I make the changes in config.g?
                      And if so, is that command M566?

                      My current M566 is not labeled "jerk" so I just want to confirm.

                      M566 X1500.00 Y1500.00 Z600.00 E120.00			; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                      
                      M203 X12000.00 Y12000.00 Z600.00 E2100.00		; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                      
                      M201 X1500.00 Y1500.00 Z500.00 E250.00			; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                      
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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator
                        last edited by

                        Yes, maximum instantaneous speed changes is often called jerk.

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                        • davidewenundefined
                          davidewen @Phaedrux
                          last edited by

                          @Phaedrux

                          Got it. Do you have some recommendations from my current settings?

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator @davidewen
                            last edited by

                            @davidewen Try these

                            M566 X1500.00 Y1500.00 Z600.00 E3000			; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                             
                            M203 X12000.00 Y12000.00 Z600.00 E6000		; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                             
                            M201 X1500.00 Y1500.00 Z500.00 E3000			; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                            

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                            • davidewenundefined
                              davidewen @Phaedrux
                              last edited by

                              @Phaedrux
                              Thanks for the info. This has helped a lot. Seam is still there, but greatly improved.
                              I will play around with these settings to see if I can get it to almost perfect.

                              Cheers!

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator @davidewen
                                last edited by

                                @davidewen said in Strange Blobbing on Layer Change:

                                Seam is still there, but greatly improved.

                                Have you tune pressure advance yet? That's the remaining piece of the puzzle.

                                https://docs.duet3d.com/en/User_manual/Tuning/Pressure_advance

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