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    • giostarkundefined
      giostark
      last edited by giostark

      I found this that should be where you lies at this point:
      https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connector_and_spare_part_numbers#Section_VSSA_fuse
      But right now I'm not capable enough to give suggestions 😕

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      • A Former User?
        A Former User @felixlvh
        last edited by

        @felixlvh said in Error: Temperature reading fault on heater 0:

        e vss fuse issue. any idea how to identify and fix this?

        see if this thread helps? https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/15331/error-on-thermistors

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        • felixlvhundefined
          felixlvh
          last edited by felixlvh

          more details below; run some commands

          Heater 0 uses Thermistor sensor channel 0, last error: sensor open circuit, T:100000.0 B:3950.0 C:0.00e+0 R:4700.0 L:54 H:-97

          Heater 1 uses Thermistor sensor channel 1, last error: sensor open circuit, T:100000.0 B:4725.0 C:7.06e-8 R:4700.0 L:0 H:0

          Heater 0 model: gain 90.0, time constant 700.0, dead time 10.0, max PWM 1.00, calibration voltage 0.0, mode bang-bang, inverted no, frequency default

          Heater 1 model: gain 550.2, time constant 241.2, dead time 7.0, max PWM 1.00, calibration voltage 0.0, mode PID, inverted no, frequency default
          Computed PID parameters for setpoint change: P11.2, I0.272, D54.8
          Computed PID parameters for load change: P11.2

          FIRMWARE_NAME: RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet FIRMWARE_VERSION: 2.05.1 ELECTRONICS: Duet WiFi 1.0 or 1.01 FIRMWARE_DATE: 2020-02-09b1

          Board image : https://ibb.co/9n1mwS5

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          • A Former User?
            A Former User
            last edited by

            @felixlvh said in Heater Fault:

            Hi @dc42, i have the same issue as mentioned above. can you eleborate how can i use a multimeter to verify if i have vssa fuse blown? i am pretty sure all wiring are ok and now i am getting open circuit error message. thanks a ton!

            FIRMWARE_NAME: RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet FIRMWARE_VERSION: 2.05.1 ELECTRONICS: Duet WiFi 1.0 or 1.01 FIRMWARE_DATE: 2020-02-09b1

            @dc42 said in Heater Fault:

            Yes, if your Duet is a revision 1.0 or 1.01 then with power off, use a multimeter to measure the resistance between VSSA on a thermistor pin and GND on an endstop pin. It should read no more than a few ohms. If instead it's very high, the VSSA fuse has blown, which will make all thermistors read 2000C.

            https://www.google.com/search?q=test+fuse+multimeter

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            • felixlvhundefined
              felixlvh
              last edited by

              @bearer said in Error: Temperature reading fault on heater 0:

              https://www.google.com/search?q=test+fuse+multimeter

              Hi @bearer thanks for your reply.

              I look closer to my board and found something is blown as screenshot. I am not sure if this is VSSA, can you point me to the right fuse?

              https://ibb.co/3FKtpV2

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              • A Former User?
                A Former User
                last edited by

                Which revision board is it?

                First picture is a fan output, looks damaged. (TR1 designates transistor, as in mosfet)

                Fuse should have been a fairly large 1206 smd part (3.6x1.6mm) in the second picture, fuses are designated Fn.

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                • felixlvhundefined
                  felixlvh
                  last edited by felixlvh

                  Hi @bearer

                  It should be 1.02. i searched around and found the vssa. assumed i am on the right fuse, the multimeter doesn't give me any reading. do i need to connect to power? thanks again!

                  https://ibb.co/TYb2MNS

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                  • A Former User?
                    A Former User @felixlvh
                    last edited by

                    @felixlvh said in Error: Temperature reading fault on heater 0:

                    do i need to connect to power

                    no, it should measure as close to 0 ohm when its ok, but it can be tricky to pierce oxide layer on old solder joints. You could repeat the measurement between Vin- and both pins on the thermistor input (one of them should be close to 0 ohm if the fuse ok)

                    Looks to be the right part, but smaller on rev 1.2.

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                    • felixlvhundefined
                      felixlvh
                      last edited by felixlvh

                      @bearer said in Error: Temperature reading fault on heater 0:

                      no, it should measure as close to 0 ohm when its ok, but it can be tricky to pierce oxide layer on old solder joints. You could repeat the measurement between Vin- and both pins on the thermistor input (one of them should be close to 0 ohm if the fuse ok)

                      Looks to be the right part, but smaller on rev 1.2.

                      Thanks @bearer , in this case i don't think my vssa fuse is blown.

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                      • felixlvhundefined
                        felixlvh
                        last edited by

                        @dc42 @bearer

                        i have tried to disconnect all wires to isolate the issue. i am plugging in the extruder heaters e1, extruder thermistors, bed thermistor, heated bed still showing the same error. do you think is should get a new board?

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                        • Turboundefined
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                          • A Former User?
                            A Former User
                            last edited by

                            if you measure the resistance across the two pins of the thermistor plug, when its not connected to the board wht do you get?

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                            • felixlvhundefined
                              felixlvh @A Former User
                              last edited by

                              @bearer said in Error: Temperature reading fault on heater 0:

                              not connected to the board wht do you get?

                              @bearer , i got reading 80.3K

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                              • A Former User?
                                A Former User @felixlvh
                                last edited by

                                @felixlvh said in Error: Temperature reading fault on heater 0:

                                80.3K

                                config says its a 100k thermistor so it should be about right

                                maybe you should connect vssa directly to ground on a unused thermistor input now that you have nothing else connected; power from usb and see if that makes a difference

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                                • felixlvhundefined
                                  felixlvh @A Former User
                                  last edited by

                                  @bearer Thanks, i am still uncertain about the vssa fuse. if you see the image here, https://ibb.co/TYb2MNS i got reading 90.9K. i can now confirm board is v1.01.

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                                  • A Former User?
                                    A Former User
                                    last edited by A Former User

                                    you should get pretty much 0. (or at least single digit ohms)

                                    if you have a wire handy, run it as shown here, connect the thermistor to e0 or bed and power from usb.

                                    1758b6d1-6087-4aab-90aa-29698c5a34e8-image.png

                                    (it'll bypass the fuse, which should be safe when only the thermistor and usb is connected)

                                    edit: seems the 1.02 board do not have a resettable fuse
                                    https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connector_and_spare_part_numbers#Section_VSSA_fuse

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                                    • felixlvhundefined
                                      felixlvh
                                      last edited by felixlvh

                                      @bearer said in Error: Temperature reading fault on heater 0:

                                      vssa directly to ground

                                      @bearer If i did it correctly, It still shows the same error 2000'C

                                      error.jpg

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                                      • A Former User?
                                        A Former User
                                        last edited by

                                        you've got the thermistor connected to e1 and configured for e0? move it to e0?

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                                        • felixlvhundefined
                                          felixlvh
                                          last edited by

                                          @bearer said in Error: Temperature reading fault on heater 0:

                                          configured

                                          @bearer OMG, E0 works!

                                          e0.jpg

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                                          • A Former User?
                                            A Former User
                                            last edited by A Former User

                                            so you need a new fuse, ref the wiki link above.

                                            edit; and you probably have to remap or repair fan2 as well.

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