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    • Touchthebitum
      Touchthebitum last edited by

      Hello
      I have a 220v 750w silicone bed from Keenovo wired correctly as seen in on other thread.
      I have a correct thermistor reading but when I'm doing PID tuning, the bed doesn't heat.
      I have a SSR :RS1a23d25s62 AC51:25amp 240v 3-32v
      Where am I wrong ?
      Thanks

      Here is my Heaters config :
      ; Heaters
      M308 S0 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T95000 B3950 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp1
      M950 H0 C"out0" T0 ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
      M307 H0 B0 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
      M140 H0 S-273.15 ; map heated bed to heater 0
      M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
      M308 S1 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T410000 B4723 C1.19622e-7 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin temp0
      M950 H1 C"out1" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 1
      M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit

      Sparkcube XL V 1.1 300x300x190, Radds, Raspberry, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v, Big Booster Extruder, DIY building
      BLV Cube 665mm Direct Drive with Duet3/SBC (RPi 4) Mosquito Magnum/Bond Tech Extruder/Vanadium Nozzle, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v

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      • dc42
        dc42 administrators @Touchthebitum last edited by

        How have you connected the SSR to the Duet? Have you connected the + and - control input wires the right way round?

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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        • Touchthebitum
          Touchthebitum last edited by

          @dc42
          Duet3 (out0) instead of Duet2

          220v.jpg

          Sparkcube XL V 1.1 300x300x190, Radds, Raspberry, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v, Big Booster Extruder, DIY building
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          • fcwilt
            fcwilt last edited by

            Hi,

            Did you verify that 220 is present on the L and N wires?

            Frederick

            Printers: A FT-5 with the 713 upgrade bits. A custom MarkForged style. A small Utilmaker style and a CoreXY from kits. Various hotends. Using Duets (2 and 3) running 3.4.1

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            • Touchthebitum
              Touchthebitum @fcwilt last edited by

              @fcwilt
              No, with a tester ?

              Sparkcube XL V 1.1 300x300x190, Radds, Raspberry, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v, Big Booster Extruder, DIY building
              BLV Cube 665mm Direct Drive with Duet3/SBC (RPi 4) Mosquito Magnum/Bond Tech Extruder/Vanadium Nozzle, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v

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              • fcwilt
                fcwilt @Touchthebitum last edited by

                @Touchthebitum said in Keenovo 220v setup:

                @fcwilt
                No, with a tester ?

                I was just wondering if that power switch was wired/working correctly. I had one that was defective.

                Do you have a device that you can test for power on those wires?

                Frederick

                Printers: A FT-5 with the 713 upgrade bits. A custom MarkForged style. A small Utilmaker style and a CoreXY from kits. Various hotends. Using Duets (2 and 3) running 3.4.1

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                • Touchthebitum
                  Touchthebitum @fcwilt last edited by

                  @fcwilt
                  No, unfortunately ๐Ÿ˜ž

                  Sparkcube XL V 1.1 300x300x190, Radds, Raspberry, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v, Big Booster Extruder, DIY building
                  BLV Cube 665mm Direct Drive with Duet3/SBC (RPi 4) Mosquito Magnum/Bond Tech Extruder/Vanadium Nozzle, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v

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                  • Touchthebitum
                    Touchthebitum last edited by

                    out3/4 should be powered ?
                    20200816_162226.jpg

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                    BLV Cube 665mm Direct Drive with Duet3/SBC (RPi 4) Mosquito Magnum/Bond Tech Extruder/Vanadium Nozzle, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v

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                    • dc42
                      dc42 administrators last edited by

                      If it's a Duet 3 then OUT0+ is powered from the +VOUT0_IN input terminal, not from +VIN.

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                      • Touchthebitum
                        Touchthebitum @dc42 last edited by

                        @dc42
                        Yes it is a Duet3.
                        So I should power out_0 power in too from the PSU ?

                        Sparkcube XL V 1.1 300x300x190, Radds, Raspberry, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v, Big Booster Extruder, DIY building
                        BLV Cube 665mm Direct Drive with Duet3/SBC (RPi 4) Mosquito Magnum/Bond Tech Extruder/Vanadium Nozzle, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v

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                        • pixelpieper
                          pixelpieper last edited by

                          The SSR does not take a lot of current on its input, you can use a thin wire and one of the fan headers to simplify your wiring. Keeps your bed output free for things such switching LED lights...

                          Voron V2.434 / Duet 3 Mini5+, Duet 3 Expansion Mini 2+, Duet 1LC V1.1 Toolboard
                          Voron V0.250 / Duet 2 Maestro

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                          • Touchthebitum
                            Touchthebitum @pixelpieper last edited by

                            @pixelpieper
                            Ok, thanks but not sure I understand ..

                            Sparkcube XL V 1.1 300x300x190, Radds, Raspberry, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v, Big Booster Extruder, DIY building
                            BLV Cube 665mm Direct Drive with Duet3/SBC (RPi 4) Mosquito Magnum/Bond Tech Extruder/Vanadium Nozzle, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v

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                            • pixelpieper
                              pixelpieper @Touchthebitum last edited by

                              @Touchthebitum I just had a look on the wiring diagram of the duet 3: you can configure your bed to use for example out 2 instead of the big screw terminals to control your SSR.

                              Voron V2.434 / Duet 3 Mini5+, Duet 3 Expansion Mini 2+, Duet 1LC V1.1 Toolboard
                              Voron V0.250 / Duet 2 Maestro

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                              • Touchthebitum
                                Touchthebitum @pixelpieper last edited by

                                @pixelpieper
                                Ok, thanks

                                Sparkcube XL V 1.1 300x300x190, Radds, Raspberry, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v, Big Booster Extruder, DIY building
                                BLV Cube 665mm Direct Drive with Duet3/SBC (RPi 4) Mosquito Magnum/Bond Tech Extruder/Vanadium Nozzle, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v

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                                • pixelpieper
                                  pixelpieper @Touchthebitum last edited by

                                  @Touchthebitum Here is a sketch with the correct polarity for the SSR inputs: Screenshot 2020-08-16 at 16.48.09.png

                                  You then have to adjust the configuration as follows:
                                  M950 H0 C"out2" T0 ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0

                                  Voron V2.434 / Duet 3 Mini5+, Duet 3 Expansion Mini 2+, Duet 1LC V1.1 Toolboard
                                  Voron V0.250 / Duet 2 Maestro

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                                  • Touchthebitum
                                    Touchthebitum @pixelpieper last edited by

                                    @pixelpieper
                                    Perfect ๐Ÿ˜‰
                                    Thanks

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                                    BLV Cube 665mm Direct Drive with Duet3/SBC (RPi 4) Mosquito Magnum/Bond Tech Extruder/Vanadium Nozzle, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v

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                                    • Touchthebitum
                                      Touchthebitum @pixelpieper last edited by

                                      @pixelpieper
                                      Great it works like a charm. Thanks

                                      Sparkcube XL V 1.1 300x300x190, Radds, Raspberry, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v, Big Booster Extruder, DIY building
                                      BLV Cube 665mm Direct Drive with Duet3/SBC (RPi 4) Mosquito Magnum/Bond Tech Extruder/Vanadium Nozzle, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v

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                                      • pixelpieper
                                        pixelpieper @Touchthebitum last edited by

                                        @Touchthebitum Nice!

                                        Voron V2.434 / Duet 3 Mini5+, Duet 3 Expansion Mini 2+, Duet 1LC V1.1 Toolboard
                                        Voron V0.250 / Duet 2 Maestro

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                                        • Phaedrux
                                          Phaedrux Moderator @Touchthebitum last edited by

                                          @Touchthebitum said in Keenovo 220v setup:

                                          @fcwilt
                                          No, unfortunately ๐Ÿ˜ž

                                          You're doing mains wiring without a multimeter? ๐Ÿ˜จ
                                          I'm shocked, but hopefully you aren't! โšก

                                          Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                          • Touchthebitum
                                            Touchthebitum @Phaedrux last edited by Touchthebitum

                                            @Phaedrux
                                            No, I misunderstood the question, I mean I'm not very clever with it ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                            Sparkcube XL V 1.1 300x300x190, Radds, Raspberry, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v, Big Booster Extruder, DIY building
                                            BLV Cube 665mm Direct Drive with Duet3/SBC (RPi 4) Mosquito Magnum/Bond Tech Extruder/Vanadium Nozzle, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v

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                                            • zapta
                                              zapta @Phaedrux last edited by zapta

                                              @Phaedrux said in Keenovo 220v setup:

                                              You're doing mains wiring without a multimeter?

                                              A side note about multimeter usage, if you use it for mains voltage, you want something better than the check multimeters from China, regardless what their specification says. There are all kind of costly safety consideration that go into a good multimeter design. Stick with a brand name (there are several, Fluke is not the only one).

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                                              • Touchthebitum
                                                Touchthebitum @zapta last edited by

                                                @zapta
                                                Thanks, I'll consider that rapidly.

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                                                BLV Cube 665mm Direct Drive with Duet3/SBC (RPi 4) Mosquito Magnum/Bond Tech Extruder/Vanadium Nozzle, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v

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                                                • whopping pochard
                                                  whopping pochard last edited by

                                                  Also, these non-contact AC voltage probes can be a real lifesaver! Theyโ€™re not too expensive and really great to keep around whenever youโ€™re dealing with mains wiring. Just wave the tip by each of your wires before going in to make sure theyโ€™re not powered.

                                                  Fluke 1AC II VoltAlert Non-Contact Voltage Tester https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000EJ332O/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_9g8oFbXAG3MBR

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                                                  • piotrkmiotczyk
                                                    piotrkmiotczyk @pixelpieper last edited by piotrkmiotczyk

                                                    @pixelpieper Hi!

                                                    Naive queestion here... if you don't mind. Looking at your polarity markings and Duet3 pinout diagram key, I'm confused why yellow/black (called 'PWM V_IN' in the key) is a -.

                                                    (I've just ordered a Duet3, and yes I've a multimeter and done some wiring, but never read motherboard pinout diagrams before.)

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                                                    • rjenkinsgb
                                                      rjenkinsgb @piotrkmiotczyk last edited by

                                                      @piotrkmiotczyk said in Keenovo 220v setup:

                                                      Naive queestion here... if you don't mind. Looking at your polarity markings and Duet3 pinout diagram key, I'm confused why yellow/black (called 'PWM V_IN' in the key) is a -.

                                                      The positive side is permanently powered, the negative is switched to ground for "on" so is pulled to near the positive voltage with the output turned off.

                                                      I believe they label them that way so people realise it's not the positive power that is switched, with a permanent 0V/ground on the other terminal.

                                                      Robert J.

                                                      Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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