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    • Heartleander81undefined
      Heartleander81
      last edited by

      Hi Guys.

      I have a question about a Duet Wifi 2 and Duet 3 6hc board.
      I have 2 component fans that should start up at the same time.

      How do I enter this under RRF 3?
      Would that be for duet 3 e.g.
      M950 F2 C "out6" Q500
      M106 P2 S1 H1 T50

      Is that for Duett 2 wifi then:
      M950 F2 C "fan2" Q500
      M106 P2 S1 H1 T50

      ??

      Will both component fans start up on the M106 S255?

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      • Vetiundefined
        Veti
        last edited by

        @Heartleander81 said in 2 Component Fans:

        H1 T50

        this means the fan turns on if the heater 1 is above 50
        in that case it can not be controlled by m106.

        H-1

        this would mean controlled by m106

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator
          last edited by

          Your question is a little unclear. Are you using a Duet3 or Duetwifi? are you wanting to use 2 fans on the same tool?

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          • arhiundefined
            arhi
            last edited by arhi

            if you are using 2 fans to work on same hotend as aprt cooling fans, I do it, @omni is doing it, many others are doing it for sure, just connect them to the same output, if they are rated as your Vin connect them in parallel, if they are rated as Vin/2 (e.g. your Vin is 24V and your fans are 12V) wire them in series and ideally add 2 100uF across each one. 2 elcos, 100uF each, one across each fan.

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            • omniundefined
              omni @Veti
              last edited by

              @Veti Yup, as Arhi said - if your fans are rated the same voltage as your VIN run them in parallel. If they are half your voltage, run them in series - and you might want to put a zener diode on each end of the series just to protect the fans. That's how I am using these two beefy 12v blowers on a 24v VIN

              IMG_20201019_200509.jpg

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              • Heartleander81undefined
                Heartleander81 @omni
                last edited by

                I have two 24V Fans.

                My question is for a friend and me.
                I have a duet 3 6 hc and my friend has a duet 2 wifi.

                Ok i try this.
                M950 F2 C "fan2" Q500
                M106 P2 S1 H-1

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                • Heartleander81undefined
                  Heartleander81 @Heartleander81
                  last edited by

                  I have config the Firmware with the tool but the both fans not start with M106 S255.

                  On the main can i start the Fan.

                  ; Fans
                  M950 F0 C"out7" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin out7 and set its frequency
                  M106 P0 C"Hotend" S0 H0 T45 ; set fan 0 name and value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                  M950 F1 C"out8" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin out8 and set its frequency
                  M106 P1 C"Bauteil1" S0 H-1 ; set fan 1 name and value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                  M950 F2 C"out9" Q500 ; create fan 2 on pin out9 and set its frequency
                  M106 P2 C"Bauteil2" S0 H-1 ; set fan 2 name and value. Thermostatic control is turned off

                  ; Tools
                  M563 P0 S"Hotend" D0 H1 F1:2 ; define tool 0
                  G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                  G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator @Heartleander81
                    last edited by

                    @Heartleander81 said in 2 Component Fans:

                    both fans not start with M106 S255.

                    Try specifying the fan number with M106 P1:2 S1

                    https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_M106_Fan_On

                    Are you sure both fans actually work?
                    Do they work if you connect them to the always on fan ports?
                    Are they wired to the right ports?
                    Can you control them both independently?

                    In the DWC do both fans turn on when using the Tool Fan slider?

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                    • Heartleander81undefined
                      Heartleander81 @Phaedrux
                      last edited by Heartleander81

                      @Phaedrux yes both Fans work.

                      Yes i Can control them both independently.

                      In the DWC have i fan1 slider at 100% work fan1 and fan2 slider at 100% work fan2.

                      With M106 P1 S255 work fan 1, with M106 P2 S255 work fan 2 but M106 P1:2 S255 work only fan 1

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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators
                        last edited by

                        M106 does not support a list of P parameters.

                        To use two part cooling fans on one tool, the simplest approach is to connect them in parallel to a single fan output. However, an alternative is to map them in the M563 command, for example:

                        M563 P0 D0 H1 F1:2

                        Then when tool 0 is selected, M106 Sxx with no P parameter will control both of them.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                        • Heartleander81undefined
                          Heartleander81 @dc42
                          last edited by

                          @dc42 that have I make.
                          But doun't work.

                          ; Fans
                          M950 F2 C"out9" Q500 ; create fan 2 on pin out9 and set its frequency
                          M106 P2 C"Bauteil2" S0 H-1 ; set fan 2 name and value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                          M950 F1 C"out7" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin out7 and set its frequency
                          M106 P1 C"Hotend" S1 H0 T45 ; set fan 0 name and value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                          M950 F0 C"out8" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin out8 and set its frequency
                          M106 P0 C"Bauteil1" S0 H-1 ; set fan 1 name and value. Thermostatic control is turned off

                          ; Tools
                          M563 P0 S"Hotend" D0 H1 F F0: 1: 2 ; define tool 0

                          There is my code i Config.g

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                          • dc42undefined
                            dc42 administrators @Heartleander81
                            last edited by dc42

                            @Heartleander81 said in 2 Component Fans:

                            M563 P0 S"Hotend" D0 H1 F F0: 1: 2 ; define tool 0

                            Should be: M563 P0 S"Hotend" D0 H1 F0:2

                            Remove the second F and do not include the thermostatic fan in the M563 command.

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                            • Heartleander81undefined
                              Heartleander81 @dc42
                              last edited by

                              @dc42 i have change it. My finger was faster then my eyes 🙂

                              But fan 1 start fan 2 start not.

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                              • Heartleander81undefined
                                Heartleander81 @dc42
                                last edited by

                                @dc42

                                Ok i hope that is so ok now, but with M106 S255 start only Fan1. Fan2 can I only contol on DWC.

                                ; Fans
                                M950 F2 C"out9" Q500 ; create fan 2 on pin out9 and set its frequency
                                M106 P2 C"Bauteil2" S0 H-1 ; set fan 2 name and value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                M950 F1 C"out7" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin out7 and set its frequency
                                M106 P1 C"Hotend" S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 name and value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                                M950 F0 C"out8" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin out8 and set its frequency
                                M106 P0 C"Bauteil1" S0 H-1 ; set fan 0 name and value. Thermostatic control is turned off

                                ; Tools
                                M563 P0 S"Hotend" D0 H1 F0:2 ; define tool 0

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator @Heartleander81
                                  last edited by

                                  @Heartleander81 said in 2 Component Fans:

                                  Ok i hope that is so ok now, but with M106 S255 start only Fan1. Fan2 can I only contol on DWC.

                                  I think this is the expected behaviour. During a print do both fans work as expected?

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                                  • Heartleander81undefined
                                    Heartleander81 @Phaedrux
                                    last edited by

                                    @Phaedrux

                                    Unfortunately not. I can only control Fan2 via the slider in the DWC. With M106 S255, only fan 1 starts, not fan 1 and fan 2 together

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      In DWC there should be a tool fan slider that controls both.

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                                      • Heartleander81undefined
                                        Heartleander81 @Phaedrux
                                        last edited by

                                        @Phaedrux

                                        I only have one for Fan1 and one for Fan2, none for both

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                                        • Phaedruxundefined
                                          Phaedrux Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          Can you post a screenshot of your DWC fan sliders?

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                                          • Heartleander81undefined
                                            Heartleander81 @Phaedrux
                                            last edited by

                                            @Phaedrux Screenshot_20201026-222626_Firefox.jpg

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