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    After Micro swiss DD upgrade,Extruder skips steps

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    • Vetiundefined
      Veti
      last edited by

      increase the retraction distance until the stringing stops

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      • lui2004undefined
        lui2004
        last edited by

        The retraction speed is ok ?

        In the manual of micro swiss direct drive os wrotten maximum distance 1.5 and max speed 35 ,can i go higher without Problems?

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        • Vetiundefined
          Veti
          last edited by

          print this
          https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2563909

          until you get no stringing.

          stay with that retraction speed for now

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          • lui2004undefined
            lui2004 @Veti
            last edited by

            @Veti which max distance i should 2.0 or 2.5 ?

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            • Vetiundefined
              Veti @lui2004
              last edited by

              @lui2004

              go up in 0.25 increments until the stringing stops

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              • lui2004undefined
                lui2004
                last edited by

                ok mate thanks

                i still print the restraction stl

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                • lui2004undefined
                  lui2004 @Veti
                  last edited by

                  @Veti i am now retraction distance of 3,5mm at stringing is always on prints

                  is 3.5mm to much for direct drive ?

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                  • Vetiundefined
                    Veti @lui2004
                    last edited by

                    @lui2004

                    M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3950 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp

                    did you change the thermistor when you switched to the micro swiss?
                    Are you sure B3950 is correct?

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                    • lui2004undefined
                      lui2004 @Veti
                      last edited by

                      @Veti yes i have changed it like in the docu like this:

                      i have changed only the bed its a silicon bed with 100k NTC3950

                      ; Heaters
                      M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3950 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                      M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0                          ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                      M307 H0 B0 S1.00                               ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                      M140 H0                                        ; map heated bed to heater 0
                      M143 H0 S120                                   ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                      M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T98801 B4185 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
                      M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1                           ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                      M143 H1 S300 								   ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 300C
                      M307 H1 B0 S1.00           
                      
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                      • lui2004undefined
                        lui2004 @Veti
                        last edited by

                        @Veti i have checked the marlin source and there is for hotend thermistor:

                        100k thermistor - best choice for EPCOS 100k (4.7k pullup)

                        is config correct ?

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                        • Vetiundefined
                          Veti
                          last edited by

                          what temperature are you printing at? what material?

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                          • lui2004undefined
                            lui2004 @Veti
                            last edited by

                            @Veti 210°C its PLA

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                            • Vetiundefined
                              Veti @lui2004
                              last edited by

                              @lui2004

                              try printing at 200 and 190 and go down and start at 1 mm retraction again.

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                              • lui2004undefined
                                lui2004 @Veti
                                last edited by

                                @Veti ok

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  You can try adding this command to your config.g M204 P500 T2000 which will maintain your current acceleration for print moves, but allow faster acceleration for travel moves. This can help a bit with oozing by shortening the time of the travel moves.

                                  This would also be a good time to look into tuning pressure advance and double checking your extruder calibration.

                                  3.5mm seems high for a direct drive. I would use the micro swiss recommendation of 1.5mm distance and 35mm/s speed for retraction, and then tune pressure advance. Since it's a direct drive a good starting value would be M572 D0 S0.05.

                                  https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Pressure_advance

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                                  • lui2004undefined
                                    lui2004 @Phaedrux
                                    last edited by

                                    @Phaedrux i can add it somewhere in the config ?

                                    I will recheck the extruder tommorow

                                    I will recheck the PA value my actual value is 0.15

                                    Thanks

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      Yes add to config.g

                                      0.15 seems like a very high PA value for a direct drive extruder.

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                                      • lui2004undefined
                                        lui2004 @Phaedrux
                                        last edited by

                                        @Phaedrux i have insert the lines you written.

                                        Thats the result:

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                                        alt text

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                                        • Vetiundefined
                                          Veti
                                          last edited by

                                          can you reduce the e steps by 10% and try again?

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                                          • lui2004undefined
                                            lui2004 @Veti
                                            last edited by

                                            @Veti no problem

                                            with which temperature,what do you mean ?

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