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    • Blacksheep99undefined
      Blacksheep99
      last edited by

      I've already realised my mistake! I connected to the wrong part of the board. I used E0 Heat when I should use E0 Temp!

      I'll leave the other post up as it's what I've been doing and also may serve as a lesson to others.... 😄

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      • Vetiundefined
        Veti
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        @Blacksheep99 said in ST3Di Modelsmart 280 - Duet Maestro repair/upgrade:

        M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T137000 B3478 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp

        i suggest you try the most common ones for the thermistors.
        thats B 3950
        epocs 100k
        semitec 104-gt2

        your settings seems very wrong.

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        • Blacksheep99undefined
          Blacksheep99 @Veti
          last edited by

          @Veti Thanks. I'm thinking the easiest thing would be to buy two new thermistors for the hot end. Could you recommend ones available on amazon uk? I do have the offer of a k type thermocouple meter from a friend.

          I think the bed seems to behave and I doubt I'll need to go above 60c so I'm less concerned about that.

          Tonight I hope to look at the servo and probe. I intend to add a microswitch and use that as the X stop so the probe has a single purpose.

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          • Vetiundefined
            Veti
            last edited by

            not amazon but e3d

            https://e3d-online.com/products/100k-ohm-ntc-thermistor-semitec?_pos=6&_sid=d490c2b6e&_ss=r
            https://e3d-online.com/products/fibreglass-sleeving-for-insulating-thermistors-100mm?_pos=11&_sid=d490c2b6e&_ss=r

            but we dont know if it will fit, because of the black gunk we cant see a thing

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            • Blacksheep99undefined
              Blacksheep99 @Veti
              last edited by

              @Veti Thanks. I'll look at E3D. If I take one of the hot ends apart would that be the way to go? I take when buying the thermistor I'd also need some kind of sleeve and is there a thermal paste of some nature? I've never built a hot end so it's new to me.

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              • Vetiundefined
                Veti
                last edited by

                the sleeve i linked

                however the hotend is different from most other hotends so you will have to see how to fix it

                maybe you could also mount a standard e3d block on there.

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                • Blacksheep99undefined
                  Blacksheep99 @Veti
                  last edited by

                  @Veti Sorry, I overlooked the 2nd link.

                  I did wonder about that. I'm going to take one apart and have a closer look.

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                  • Blacksheep99undefined
                    Blacksheep99
                    last edited by Blacksheep99

                    Regarding the servo deployed probe. I'm looking for guidance or examples of how this is done. I'm looking a the guides and I cannot immediately see how I approach this.

                    This is the servo
                    https://emaxmodel.com/products/emax-es08ma-ii-12g-mini-metal-gear-analog-servo-for-rc-model-robot-pwm-servo

                    Seems it needs 5v to power it. There are the three wires to power and deploy it. I then have the 2 for the microswitch to probe the bed level. My thought is I connect the servo to the Z probe on the board but do I then need to use an endstop to connect the probe switch? Could I use the +3.3v and Z Probe in for the switch? Thanks.

                    This looks a viable solution to me

                    https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/8849/maestro-servo-wiring

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                    • Blacksheep99undefined
                      Blacksheep99
                      last edited by

                      I've been trying to get the probe working but for now I have decided to set my config with no z probe and use the manual option. Upon doing this I notice that when clicking to move the bed +25 it's not actually moving this distance.

                      My bed is on a lead screw which is connected to the stepper via a small belt. The mechanics of this are underneath the printer which will mean taking bit apart. Is there a way I can work out what I need to change to make this correct? Thanks.

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                      • Vetiundefined
                        Veti
                        last edited by

                        can you post a picture of the belt assembly?

                        and you can wire the servo to the z probe connector.

                        use zprobe.mod for the servo signal line. just like for a bltouch.

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                        • Blacksheep99undefined
                          Blacksheep99
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                          X Axis

                          IMG_7333.jpg

                          Y Axis - 2 belts and then a small belt to the stepper

                          IMG_7334.jpg
                          IMG_7335.jpg

                          Z Axis - There must be a belt under the black base. I'll have to dismantle it to check.

                          IMG_7336.jpg

                          servo and probe wired up. Think this is right although the servo now doesn't respond. Temp wiring...

                          IMG_7337.jpg

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                          • Vetiundefined
                            Veti
                            last edited by

                            how is the motor connected to the lead screw? post a picture of that.

                            also you need to work out the pitch of the leadscrew.

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                            • Blacksheep99undefined
                              Blacksheep99 @Veti
                              last edited by Blacksheep99

                              @Veti I believe its a belt as that would be logical but I willhave to take the base off the printer as it's under the base I believe. Seems I can't avoid it?

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                              • Vetiundefined
                                Veti
                                last edited by

                                well if its 1:1 transmition then no

                                so work out the pitch of the leadscrew and use this to calculate the steps
                                https://blog.prusaprinters.org/calculator_3416/

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                                • Blacksheep99undefined
                                  Blacksheep99 @Veti
                                  last edited by

                                  @Veti said in ST3Di Modelsmart 280 - Duet Maestro repair/upgrade:

                                  well if its 1:1 transmition then no

                                  so work out the pitch of the leadscrew and use this to calculate the steps
                                  https://blog.prusaprinters.org/calculator_3416/

                                  Thanks. I would think it is. Pitch looks to be 2mm. Stepper is 1.8 degrees from the spec sheet. stepper at x16 so I think we're looking at 1600 for the Z

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                                  • Blacksheep99undefined
                                    Blacksheep99 @Blacksheep99
                                    last edited by

                                    @Blacksheep99 said in ST3Di Modelsmart 280 - Duet Maestro repair/upgrade:

                                    @Veti said in ST3Di Modelsmart 280 - Duet Maestro repair/upgrade:

                                    well if its 1:1 transmition then no

                                    so work out the pitch of the leadscrew and use this to calculate the steps
                                    https://blog.prusaprinters.org/calculator_3416/

                                    Thanks. I would think it is. Pitch looks to be 2mm. Stepper is 1.8 degrees from the spec sheet. stepper at x16 so I think we're looking at 1600 for the Z

                                    I take this back. I know that the build height is 150. I've tried manual Z definition and it's come at 120. If I look at the Y axis then the teeth on the two pullys the motor one is 12 teeth. Harder to count the other but looks to be 16.

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                                    • Vetiundefined
                                      Veti
                                      last edited by Veti

                                      12:16 ratio with 120 would give you 160. so...

                                      if its a 16:20 with 120 would give you 150.
                                      you ought to open it up and count

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                                      • Blacksheep99undefined
                                        Blacksheep99 @Veti
                                        last edited by

                                        @Veti said in ST3Di Modelsmart 280 - Duet Maestro repair/upgrade:

                                        12:16 ratio with 120 would give you 160. so...

                                        if its a 16:20 with 120 would give you 150.
                                        you ought to open it up and count

                                        I will. A job for tomorrow. Thanks again, I do appreciate the help.

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                                        • Blacksheep99undefined
                                          Blacksheep99
                                          last edited by

                                          Thanks to a lot of help I finally managed to get everything hooked up and in theory working. I just wanted to link to the separate thread I created for completeness.

                                          https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/20803/servo-deployed-probe-on-duet-maestro

                                          I need to tidy my wiring up, mount the board, bracket for the power cables etc.

                                          The next task is getting a successful first print.

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                                          • Blacksheep99undefined
                                            Blacksheep99
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                                            Can't thank the people who have helped me enough. Still lots of work to do in terms of getting the printer calibrated properly and playing with settings but to get to this stage I'm extremely happy.

                                            It's smushing layers a little and over extruding I think. The part fan is disconnected as I need to cut the shroud that directs the air to the part so it fits around the new probe.

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