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    • Paskalundefined
      Paskal
      last edited by Paskal

      Hello, I have a problem with the extruder. I have set the retraction speed 80mm / s z-hop 0.4mm retraction length 7mm.

      I tried to change the speed in the slicer. The test tower printout is the same. I also tried setting the retraction in the config. And the same prints. It seemed to ignore the change.!
      Extruder BMG with E3D V6 directdrive.

      It is Configconfig.g

      IMG_20210117_204059.jpg

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      • Paskalundefined
        Paskal @Paskal
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        • Carloundefined
          Carlo @Paskal
          last edited by Carlo

          @Paskal

          Which slicer are you using?
          Also 7mm is a lot for direct drive 2mm max

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          • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
            DIY-O-Sphere
            last edited by

            @Paskal said in Help with retraction. Retraction not working:

            config.g

            You have limited the extruder speed to 60mm/s....
            Also the extruder acceleration is to low...

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            • Paskalundefined
              Paskal
              last edited by

              This is an old setting, I forgot to upload the new one I have there.
              I use Prusa slicer. I tried to give the acceleration like this

              M203 X15000.00 Y15000.00 Z300.00 E5400.00
              M566 X600 Y600 Z20 E3600
              M201 X1000 Y1000 Z100 E5400

              M207 S7 F5400 Z0.4

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              • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                DIY-O-Sphere @Paskal
                last edited by DIY-O-Sphere

                @Paskal said in Help with retraction. Retraction not working:

                So you are trying to set up firmware retraction?
                Have you enabled the option in the slicer?

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                • Paskalundefined
                  Paskal
                  last edited by

                  Yes, retraction is disabled in the slicer. And is run set up firmware retraction.

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                  • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                    DIY-O-Sphere @Paskal
                    last edited by

                    @Paskal
                    You can trigger retraction by sending G10 in DWC and unretract by G11.
                    Is that working?

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                    • Paskalundefined
                      Paskal
                      last edited by

                      Yes, retraction works in the printer web interface

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                      • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                        DIY-O-Sphere @Paskal
                        last edited by

                        @Paskal
                        Can you provide a current config?
                        I have found an issue with heater setting in the old one.

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                        • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                          DIY-O-Sphere @Paskal
                          last edited by

                          @Paskal said in Help with retraction. Retraction not working:

                          Yes, retraction works in the printer web interface

                          Have you checked the slicer G-code?
                          Can you provide a sample?

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                          • Paskalundefined
                            Paskal
                            last edited by

                            four_square_cons.gcode

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                            • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                              DIY-O-Sphere @Paskal
                              last edited by DIY-O-Sphere

                              @Paskal
                              Where do you set the retraction settings?
                              I have base values in the config. And I overwrite them with the g-code of the filament settings.
                              Have you set them manually in DWC before starting a print?

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                              • Paskalundefined
                                Paskal
                                last edited by

                                I have retraction settings in the config.g

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                                • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                                  DIY-O-Sphere @Paskal
                                  last edited by

                                  @Paskal said in Help with retraction. Retraction not working:

                                  I have retraction settings in the config.g

                                  Not in the old one.....

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                                  • jay_s_ukundefined
                                    jay_s_uk
                                    last edited by

                                    you still need to enable retraction in the slicer and then tick the box for firmware retraction.
                                    The slicer then inserts G10 and G11 when retraction is required.
                                    Otherwise, how will the firmware know?

                                    Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                    • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                                      DIY-O-Sphere @jay_s_uk
                                      last edited by

                                      @jay_s_uk said in Help with retraction. Retraction not working:

                                      The slicer then inserts G10 and G11

                                      It's in the g-code
                                      I have checked that...

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                                      • Phaedruxundefined
                                        Phaedrux Moderator
                                        last edited by Phaedrux

                                        Part of the problem is the extremely long retraction, extremely low speed values for Z, and using Z hop. Z hop will always lead to a lot of stringing.

                                        Try this for your settings

                                        M566 X700 Y700 Z60 E3000            	   ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                        M203 X6000 Y6000 Z600 E6000       	   ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                        M201 X900 Y900 Z200 E3000            	   ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                        M207 P0 S1.5 R0 F3600 T2600 Z0 ; retraction
                                        M572 S0 S0.05 ; pressure advance
                                        

                                        Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                        • Paskalundefined
                                          Paskal
                                          last edited by

                                          @Phaedrux said in Help with retraction. Retraction not working:

                                          M207 P0 S1.5 R0 F3600 T2600 Z0 ; retraction M572 S0 S0.05 ; pressure advance

                                          I changed the settings as recommended. I attach a photo, it seems better to me

                                          IMG_20210118_211946.jpg

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                                          • Phaedruxundefined
                                            Phaedrux Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            Ok, now try calibrating the extruder: https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Guide/Ender+3+Pro+and+Duet+Maestro+Guide+Part+4:+Calibration/40#s165

                                            Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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