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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators
      last edited by

      Please report the text of the "Error reason" in the Ajax error message Z if there is one.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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      • Agniusmundefined
        Agniusm
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        One general question. Trying printing quicker and i get some uneven perimeter lines. What could be happening? Does Extrusion Factor on web interface got anything to do with it?
        My pressure advance is set to .7 on direct drive

        ; Drives
        M569 P0 S0 ; Drive 0 goes forwards
        M569 P1 S1 ; Drive 1 goes forwards
        M569 P2 S0 ; Drive 2 goes forwards
        M569 P3 S0 ; Drive 3 goes forwards
        M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
        M92 X79.9 Y80.69 Z396 E800 ; Set steps per mm
        M566 X900 Y900 Z12 E200 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min) (buvo e120)
        M203 X40000 Y40000 Z1000 E1200 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
        M201 X3000 Y1500 Z20 E250 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)

        M906 X1000 Y1500 Z1000 E1200 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
        M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

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        • dc42undefined
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          If your extruder is direct drive (i.e. no significant length of Bowden tube between the extruder drive and the nozzle), then pressure advance of 0.7 is much too high. Try 0.05.

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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          • Agniusmundefined
            Agniusm
            last edited by

            Tried 0.5 and 0.7 made it better. I found my problem. Skipping gear on e3d.
            Don't know why its happening so will contact their support

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            • Agniusmundefined
              Agniusm
              last edited by

              What should i put in starting Gcode for mech bed compensation?
              is it only the M28 command or should i erase previous probing?
              Here is what i have at the moment (mainly modified from prusa mk2 πŸ™‚ 😞
              M83 ; extruder relative mode
              M104 S[first_layer_temperature] ; set extruder temp
              M140 S[first_layer_bed_temperature] ; set bed temp
              M190 S[first_layer_bed_temperature] ; wait for bed temp
              M109 S[first_layer_temperature] ; wait for extruder temp
              G28 ; home all without mesh bed level
              G32 ; mesh bed leveling
              G1 Y20 X10 Z0.30 F7000.0 ; go outside printing area
              G1 E10 F100
              G1 X100.0 E9.0 F1000 ; intro line
              G1 X180.0 E12.5 F1000 ; intro line

              So instead of 5 point probing G32 i have, should i change to:
              G29 S0 (or S1 if i want to use previous data from last measurement)?

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              • Agniusmundefined
                Agniusm
                last edited by

                So my titan aero is clicking and e3d sent a new motor only larger which does not fit my design. Are you David use titan aero and if so any issues ? I found this motor and i dont know if the data is correct and if it would work: https://www.omc-stepperonline.com/hybrid-stepper-motor/nema-17-bipolar-18deg-18ncm-255ozin-07a-29v-42x42x25mm-4-wires-17hs10-0704s.html

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators
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                  I don't use a Titan Aero, I use a regular Titan. The motor I use is this https://www.omc-stepperonline.com/hybrid-stepper-motor/nema-17-bipolar-18deg-22ncm-31ozin-133a-28v-42x42x34mm-4-wires-17hs13-1334s.html.

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                  • Agniusmundefined
                    Agniusm
                    last edited by

                    Changed my bed for precision plate now battling IR probe as endstop. I cant seem to grasp the concept here. I lover the nozzle to where it touches the piece of paper then G92 Z0 and when i home it does not go back to that height. Tried G31 P500 X5 Y14.5 Z-5.5 ; with no success.
                    Whats the proper procedure setting Z probe height?
                    I am looking at these :
                    https://duet3d.com/wiki/Setting_up_automatic_probing_of_the_print_bed
                    https://duet3d.com/wiki/Using_mesh_bed_compensation

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators
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                      The G31 Z parameter should be positive for sensors that trigger before the nozzle touches the bed. For the IR sensor is should be no higher than about 3mm.

                      If you are restarting the Duet between attempts, also check that you don't also have a G31 command in config-override.g.

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                      • Agniusmundefined
                        Agniusm
                        last edited by

                        I dont have that file. So G31 is the offset of the Z probe depending how its mounted?
                        So then i would go:
                        M208 S1 Z-3
                        Lower the nozzle to where it touches say piece of paper.
                        G92 Z0 to store that
                        But where is that offset, do i need to read it from web interface and then enter it to config.g's G31? Is there a step by step somewhere?

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                        • dc42undefined
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                          I suggest you read the commissioning instructions in the fitting instructions page, at https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com/mini-height-sensor-board/.

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                          • Agniusmundefined
                            Agniusm
                            last edited by

                            Thank you. I think i have the idea now. Here is the map:

                            Is this any good or my bed is bad?
                            I have bought new 8mm precision plate but it does not look that precise.
                            Before i had Chaina heatbed out of 3mm aluminium and got this:

                            Can you help interpret the results?

                            P.S. I have 5V LED bar. Draws little over 1 A
                            Can i connect it to unused expansion header pins and control it with a macro? Cant seem to find header ratings

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators
                              last edited by

                              Your first height map looks OK, but the second (mostly red one) looks poor.

                              If you have a spare controlled fan output on the Duet, you can connect your lighting between +5V on the expansion header and FAN- on your chosen controlled fan output. The control it using M106. Or, if uou are not using the E1 heater output, you can connect the lighting between +5V on the expansion header and E1- on the E1 heater terminal block. Caution! Some versions of the Duet PCB have the E1- and VIN legends for the terminal block the wrong way round. E1- is the end farthest from the corner of the board.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                              • Agniusmundefined
                                Agniusm
                                last edited by

                                Great. Thanks.

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                                • tychopundefined
                                  tychop
                                  last edited by

                                  Agniusm,

                                  I'm about to start my adventure to replace the cr-10 board with the DuetWiFi..
                                  The steppermotor connectors are slightly different, but it's possible to plug it in…

                                  Question:
                                  Are the steppermotor connectors of the CR-10 pin-compatible with the connectors of the Duet board?
                                  Can I plug them in the Duet board or do I have to rewire ??
                                  If so, which way should the connector be orientated?

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                                  • Agniusmundefined
                                    Agniusm
                                    last edited by

                                    I think you will need to rewire. I swapped my cables and built them from scratch so i don't really know.

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                                    • tychopundefined
                                      tychop
                                      last edited by

                                      @Agniusm:

                                      I think you will need to rewire. I swapped my cables and built them from scratch so i don't really know.

                                      Not wat I was hoping for, but thanks for letting me know..
                                      I'll go and hunt down the wiring of the cr-10 connectors.

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                                      • dc42undefined
                                        dc42 administrators
                                        last edited by

                                        You can test whether the connectors need to be rewired in either of two ways:

                                        1. Use a multimeter to measure the resistance between pins. If the wiring is correct for the Duet, you should get a few ohms resistance between pins 1 and 2, and a few ohms between pins 3 and 4. There should be no continuity between 1 or 2 and 3 or 4.

                                        2. If you don't have a multimeter, then you can try shorting pins together to see if it makes the motor harder to turn. If it is wired correctly, then if you short pins 1 and 2 together, or pins 3 and 4 together, it will be harder to spin the spindle with your fingers.

                                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                        • Agniusmundefined
                                          Agniusm
                                          last edited by

                                          @tychop:

                                          @Agniusm:

                                          I think you will need to rewire. I swapped my cables and built them from scratch so i don't really know.

                                          Not wat I was hoping for, but thanks for letting me know..
                                          I'll go and hunt down the wiring of the cr-10 connectors.

                                          Rewiring is basically swapping pins. There is not much to it. Like DC42 said or you can simply plug generic LED and spin the motor by hand. If it lights up, you got a pair.
                                          On cr10 i think pairs are layed out as follows on motor connector: 1 and 4 one pair, 3 and 6 the other one. On duet you have 1b1a and 2a2b.
                                          Now just connect you wires so 1 goes to 1a 4 to 1b 3 to 2a 6 to 2b and if its reversed, reverse it back in firmware. It is different for y axis only.

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                                          • Agniusmundefined
                                            Agniusm
                                            last edited by

                                            The AJAX error still does my head in. I pulled out old router to test, where all AP's are stored so i could edit the list? I have ordered new AP so i can dedicate it to the printer

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