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    • fcwiltundefined
      fcwilt @Phaedrux
      last edited by

      @Phaedrux said in Z Homing position different by zero:

      @fcwilt said in Z Homing position different by zero:

      I've never found a reason to use M204.

      The only reason is to have faster travels than print moves.

      Given the numerous settings in slicers for speeds, etc in practice is M204 truly useful?

      Frederick

      Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator @fcwilt
        last edited by

        @fcwilt Given it's vintage it was a good option at the time. Some people also don't want to bake settings like that into gcode files since it's not adjustable after the fact.

        Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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        • bernardomattiucciundefined
          bernardomattiucci
          last edited by bernardomattiucci

          Goodmorning everyone

          I had entered the codes M566, M203 and M201 in the config.g file to find the speed "limits" of the X and Y axes.
          Now the 3 instructions in the file have been commented out.
          From the Console I get this:

          Custom M566
          ;M566 X4000.00 Y4000.00 Z300.00 E1500.00           										; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
          
          Original M566
          Maximum jerk rates (mm/min): X: 900.0, Y: 900.0, Z: 12.0, E: 120.0, jerk policy: 0
          
          Custom M203
          ;M203 X20000.00 Y20000.00 Z1000.00 E5000.00       										; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
          
          M203
          Max speeds (mm/min): X: 6000.0, Y: 6000.0, Z: 300.0, E: 1200.0, min. speed 30.00
          
          Custom M201
          ;M201 X5000.00 Y5000.00 Z100.00 E4000.00           										; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
          
          M201
          Accelerations (mm/sec^2): X: 500.0, Y: 500.0, Z: 20.0, E: 250.0
          

          I'll do some printing tests with the default values and let you know.

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          • bernardomattiucciundefined
            bernardomattiucci
            last edited by bernardomattiucci

            The settings of M566, M203 and M201 are the default ones.

            Test_XYZ_Cube.jpeg

            Surely I have to fix the slicer settings (Cura 4.8).

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            • fcwiltundefined
              fcwilt @bernardomattiucci
              last edited by

              @bernardomattiucci

              That is not good.

              Do you have a part cooling fan or fans?

              And what material are you printing?

              The first thing I would work with is your extrusion settings.

              Frederick

              Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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              • bernardomattiucciundefined
                bernardomattiucci @fcwilt
                last edited by

                @fcwilt said in Z Homing position different by zero:

                That is not good.

                With the old electronics the print quality was much better, even if the speed did not exceed 33 mm / s.

                Do you have a part cooling fan or fans?

                Yes, I have a layers fan but I fear that the flow from the duct does not come out perfectly. I'll have to improve it. But I need suggestions.

                Q600_Testa_1.jpg

                And what material are you printing?

                PLA, 180/185°C

                The first thing I would work with is your extrusion settings.

                I started from a print speed of 60mm / sec and am adjusting the speed of the outer walls, decreasing it by 5mm / sec each print.
                I would like to avoid printing at too low a speed. But if I can't solve it, I'll start with the 30mm / sec of the old electronics. 😞

                Bernardo

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                • jay_s_ukundefined
                  jay_s_uk
                  last edited by

                  Can you post your whole config? Have you set the correct thermistor?

                  Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                  • bernardomattiucciundefined
                    bernardomattiucci @jay_s_uk
                    last edited by

                    @jay_s_uk

                    ; Communication and general
                    M111 S0                         														; Debug off
                    M550 P"Quadra 600"							  											; Machine name and Netbios name (can be anything you like)
                    
                    ;*** Networking
                    M552 S1																					; Turn network on
                    M586 P0 S1              																; enable HTTP
                    M586 P1 S0              																; disable FTP
                    M586 P2 S0              																; disable Telnet
                    
                    M555 P2																					; Set output to look like Marlin
                    G21																						; Work in millimetres
                    G90																						; Send absolute coordinates...
                    M83																						; ...but relative extruder moves
                    
                    ; Drives
                    M569 P0 S0																				; X Axis - physical drive 0 goes forwards
                    M569 P1 S0																				; Y Axis - physical drive 1 goes forwards
                    M569 P3 S0																				; Extrusor - physical drive 3 goes forwards
                    M569 P5 S0																				; Z1 Axis - physical drive 5 goes forwards
                    M569 P6 S0																				; Z2 Axis - physical drive 6 goes forwards
                    M569 P7 S0																				; Z3 Axis - physical drive 7 goes forwards
                    M569 P8 S0																				; Z4 Axis - physical drive 8 goes forwards
                    
                    M584 X0 Y1 Z5:6:7:8 E3																	; set drive mapping
                    
                    M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1                       											; configure microstepping with interpolation
                    M92 X80 Y128.00 Z800.00 E102.16            												; set steps per mm
                    ;Default M566 X900 Y900 Z12 E120 P0
                    ;M566 X1800.00 Y1800.00 Z24.00 E240.00           										; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                    ;Default M203 X6000 Y6000 Z300 E1200 I30
                    ;M203 X12000 Y12000 Z600 E2400   			    										; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                    ;Default M201 X500 Y500 Z20 E250
                    ;M201 X1000 Y1000 Z40 E500	           													; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                    
                    M906 X1275 Y1875 Z1875 E1275 I30                  										; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent (60-90% of nominal current)
                    M84 S30                                       											; Set idle timeout
                    
                    ; Axis Limits
                    M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1                              											; set axis minima
                    M208 X602 Y602 Z602 S0                        											; set axis maxima
                    
                    ; Endstops
                    M574 X1 S1 P"xstop"                           											; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin xstop
                    M574 Y1 S1 P"ystop"                           											; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop
                    M574 Z1 S1 P"duex.e2stop+duex.e3stop+duex.e4stop+duex.e5stop"                     ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Z via pin duex.e2stop+duex.e3stop+duex.e4stop+duex.e5stop
                    ;M574 Z1 S1 P"duex.e5stop"
                    
                    M669 K0																	                ; select Kinematics Y to react with X and Z
                    
                    ; Z-Levelling
                    ;M558 P0; H5 F120 T6000                       											; disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
                    ;M557 X15:587 Y15:587 S20                      											; define mesh grid
                    
                    ;M671 X-115:-115:715:715 Y130:470:470:130											; Z leadscrews are at Z2 (-115.130) Z2 (-115.470), Z3 (715.470), Z4 (715.130)
                    
                    ; Thermistors
                    ;M140 H-1                                      											; disable heated bed (overrides default heater mapping)
                    
                    ; Heaters
                    M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4092 											; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                    M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0                          											; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                    M307 H0 B1 S1.00                               											; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                    M140 H0                                        											; map heated bed to heater 0
                    M143 H0 S120                                   											; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                    M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4092  											; A"MK8"  ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
                    M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1                           											; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                    M307 H1 B0 S1.00                               											; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
                    M143 H1 S280                                   											; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                    
                    ; Fans
                    M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500                          											; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
                    M106 P0 S0 H-1                                											; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                    M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500                          											; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
                    M106 P1 S1 H T45                              											; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                    
                    ; Tools
                    M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 S"Estrusore MK8"             											; define tool 0
                    G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                               											; set tool 0 axis offsets
                    G10 P0 R0 S0                                  											; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                    
                    ; Miscellaneous
                    M575 P1 S1 B57600                             											; enable support for PanelDue
                    
                    M18 Z E0
                    
                    M208 S1 Z-0.2
                    
                    T0
                    

                    @jay_s_uk said in Z Homing position different by zero:

                    Have you set the correct thermistor?

                    Honestly, I have no idea. I used the values of the old electronics.

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                    • jay_s_ukundefined
                      jay_s_uk @bernardomattiucci
                      last edited by

                      @bernardomattiucci
                      are you using stock thermistors? if so, what printer is it?

                      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                      • bernardomattiucciundefined
                        bernardomattiucci @jay_s_uk
                        last edited by

                        @jay_s_uk said in Z Homing position different by zero:

                        @bernardomattiucci
                        are you using stock thermistors? if so, what printer is it?

                        Thermistor 100 KΩ...

                        but i have no idea what it is (make / model). They gave me 3 supplied with the MK8 extruder.

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                        • bernardomattiucciundefined
                          bernardomattiucci
                          last edited by

                          Test_xyzCube_2a.jpg Test_xyzCube_2b.jpg

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                          • bernardomattiucciundefined
                            bernardomattiucci
                            last edited by

                            Consider that, at the moment, I have no way to control the temperature of the hob. I have an electric "stove" lit under it which keeps the aluminum surface (and the glass surface) hot enough to be able to print (ambient temperature below 20 ° C).

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                            • bernardomattiucciundefined
                              bernardomattiucci
                              last edited by

                              Test_xyzCube_4b.jpg

                              Zero layer of a test cube of 50x50x50 mm.
                              There are essentially 2 problems ....

                              1. Brim is not accurate. Perhaps it is due to poor adherence to the plan.
                              2. the filling is not precise and does not overlap the wall.

                              Maybe I need to change something in the settings. But what?

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                              • bernardomattiucciundefined
                                bernardomattiucci
                                last edited by bernardomattiucci

                                Test_xyzCube_4d.jpg Test_xyzCube_4c.jpg

                                In addition to modifying the speed of the walls again, with this larger test, the result looks better (apart from Layer 0). Perhaps, and this is my suspicion, the airflow of the layers fan is not suitable for small objects. If this is the case, I will have to redo the duct providing a vertical flow all around the hotend. So a more distributed flow than this, which remains concentrated in one corner.

                                At Layer 24 I paused the print to take a photo from above. In resuming the print you notice the slight error, especially on the left corner of the previous photo.

                                Test_xyzCube_4e.jpg

                                Layer 136:
                                Test_xyzCube_4f.jpg
                                Test_xyzCube_4g.jpg

                                You see various errors / problems along the edges. They are almost certainly due to a non-optimal Jerk setting. Tomorrow I will try to improve!

                                Anyway ... congratulations to everyone because this electronics are phenomenal!

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                                • bernardomattiucciundefined
                                  bernardomattiucci
                                  last edited by

                                  And with these 5 photos I close the discussion.

                                  Test_xyzCube_4_end-1.jpg Test_xyzCube_4_end-2.jpg Test_xyzCube_4_end-3.jpg Test_xyzCube_4_end-4.jpg Test_xyzCube_4_end-5.jpg

                                  Thank you all

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