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    • Hiroakiundefined
      Hiroaki @giostark
      last edited by

      @giostark How about the belt tension ? It seems the head goes too much due to the belt loosness.

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      • giostarkundefined
        giostark @Hiroaki
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        @hiroaki
        I can try to pull them , I'll report it in the evening... now is time for prepare the climbing afternoon 😀
        tnx all of you !

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator
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          Generally when using pressure advance it's recommended to turn off any coasting or pre-load features of the slicer as they will fight each other.

          Also it might help to set your seam position to a fixed point to get a better idea of what the end of line is looking like. And when possible set to inside > outside perimeters to hide the atrocities that can't be tuned out.

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          • giostarkundefined
            giostark @Phaedrux
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            @phaedrux
            Other testing here. The ringing was not for the tension of the belt , at least it should not be for that, but for the speed. The belt sound as "dong". I'm not sure if are pulled enough and at the same time I don't wanna pull them to much. 30mm/s for 90degree after every corner generate that wave. 20mm/s reduce the effect a lot. Pressure advance disabled and not option enabled for the seam in Cura.
            -Top left seam at 20mm/s.
            -Top right seam at 30/mms.
            -Bottom left corner at 20mm/s (with one vertical line after every corner).
            -Bottom right corner at 30mm/s (with 6 vertical lines after every corner).
            Could be this because the head of the printer now is more heavy that in origin?
            I already have the Hayden bars , the effector seems rigid enough. The belt are chinese (the ones come with the printer). The belt with metal core were not good, them create some bad movement resulting in horrible digging on the glass. Those rubber belt can reproduce a calibration between 0.02 and 0.03 all the times but maybe are too elastic?
            I lowered the Jerk to M566 X800 Y800 Z800 E1200 and the acceleration to M201 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E3000 , but the only thing that make a change was the final speed decreasing from 30 to 20 mm/s.
            Suggestions? 😁
            20210531_225631.jpg

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            • giostarkundefined
              giostark @giostark
              last edited by

              o_lampe was right , it have a wobbing issue. I noticed this only now that I'm trying to speed up the machine. Are arriving new belts (hope Original Gates or at least good enough).
              I read about removing the ringing in several guide.
              Can someone suggest a good pancake nema 17 for the extruder? Maybe that didn't suffer of heat at ambient temp of 50 degree.
              I should light a little the head. A direct and light drive system should be better.

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator
                last edited by

                Maybe an orbiter?

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvY_dChxj0E

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                • giostarkundefined
                  giostark @Phaedrux
                  last edited by giostark

                  @phaedrux
                  David was intrigued by the V2 ... maybe is worth waiting for this solution.
                  I'm trying at 20mm/s , the result seems pretty good , even without pressure advance. But it is so slooooow...

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Perhaps try a higher top speed but lower jerk and accel along with pressure advance.

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