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    • skrotzundefined
      skrotz @dc42
      last edited by skrotz

      @dc42 Unfortunately things look pretty much the same for me with the newest code. Some small extrusion zits or bubbles on the print, and PA doesn't seem like it is working. I did get a few step errors also it looks like, printing out a calibration cube:

      === Move ===
      DMs created 83, segments created 35, maxWait 140417ms, bed compensation in use: mesh, comp offset 0.000
      === MainDDARing ===
      Scheduled moves 11545, completed moves 11545, hiccups 2, stepErrors 3, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
      === AuxDDARing ===
      Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1

      Things didn't seem or sound better or worse than previously. There are a couple of clunks I've heard during the prints I did on this firmware and the previous one.. I wasn't sure but now that I've done another print I'm fairly certain towards the end of the print in a couple of spots there was a distinct "clunk" noise, at the same place in both prints.

      I will see if I can capture step error data again with this new firmware.

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      • dc42undefined
        dc42 administrators @skrotz
        last edited by dc42

        @skrotz and @Adrian52 please send M115 and report the firmware date/time that it reports.

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        • skrotzundefined
          skrotz @dc42
          last edited by

          @dc42
          M115
          FIRMWARE_NAME: RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet FIRMWARE_VERSION: 3.4.0beta2-inputshaping ELECTRONICS: Duet WiFi 1.02 or later + DueX5 FIRMWARE_DATE: 2021-07-25 09:41:53

          Will try and capture step error data now.

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          • Adrian52undefined
            Adrian52 @dc42
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            @dc42 2021-07-25 09:41:53

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            • skrotzundefined
              skrotz @dc42
              last edited by

              @dc42 here's the log data with some stepper errors:

              0725printerlog.txt
              config.g
              CFFFP_xyzCalibration_cube_205.gcode

              on closer inspection the "zits" I'm seeing don't seem related to where the stepper errors occurred. They only seem to happen on the X side of the cube, at occasional points where it is changing direction for the X indented in the cube. It looks like overextrusion as it is a small blob. You have to magnify things to be able to see them, but it's happening a fair bit and is different/worse than RRF 3.3 which looks very clean. It seems to happen in exactly the same place each print, and has been pretty consistent throughout all the various 3.4s I've tried.

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              • sebkritikelundefined
                sebkritikel
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                Just ran a print off the lasted BIN

                M115
                FIRMWARE_NAME: RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet FIRMWARE_VERSION: 3.4.0beta2-inputshaping ELECTRONICS: Duet WiFi 1.02 or later + DueX5 FIRMWARE_DATE: 2021-07-25 09:41:53
                

                Parts look great, but end of print M122 reports 65 hiccups and 1929 stepErrors

                M593 P"zvdd" F38.4
                M572 D0 S0.020

                config(1).g
                LOG JP_smallPart1^2021 rifle gps mount-Split1.txt
                Print file

                Large(ish?) IDEX - 6HC, 1HCL
                Stratasys Dimension 1200es to 6HC Conversion

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators @skrotz
                  last edited by

                  @skrotz what PA did you use when you had those step errors? Was everything apart from PA the same as in the config.g file you posted earlier?

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators @sebkritikel
                    last edited by

                    @sebkritikel thanks, I will run that print on my bench setup.

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                    • skrotzundefined
                      skrotz @dc42
                      last edited by

                      @dc42 I did have PA enabled, that’s probably the only difference between the config files I posted, I think. The tests with these new firmwares had PA enabled.

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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators @skrotz
                        last edited by

                        @skrotz said in RRF 3.4 input shaping preview available:

                        @dc42 I did have PA enabled, that’s probably the only difference between the config files I posted, I think. The tests with these new firmwares had PA enabled.

                        How much PA?

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                        • skrotzundefined
                          skrotz @dc42
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                          @dc42 M572 D0 S0.12 is my standard PA setting, that's what the config.g had that I have been using for current 3.4 tests.

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                          • Adrian52undefined
                            Adrian52
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                            Should add that I used daa to compare 3.3 with 3.4, so that an identical config.g could be used for both. I use pa 0.8 with my 700mm bowden. No errors or hiccups with both, but pa not working with 3.4.
                            If I use ei3 with 3.4, I get 2 Step errors with the calibration cube (no hiccups or underruns), and I get 2 filament monitor 'insufficient movement' pauses on layers 97/98 out of 100.

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators @Adrian52
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                              @adrian52 @skrotz @sebkritikel I have put a new Duet 2 binary at https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ja08b7qdzsl8kjc/AAAwUbkN2XJvurq5CuQTgx5Wa?dl=0. This fixes the issue with pressure advance and other issues that I was able to reproduce.

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                              • CadetCundefined
                                CadetC @dc42
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                                @dc42 said in RRF 3.4 input shaping preview available:

                                @adrian52 @skrotz @sebkritikel I have put a new Duet 2 binary at https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ja08b7qdzsl8kjc/AAAwUbkN2XJvurq5CuQTgx5Wa?dl=0. This fixes the issue with pressure advance and other issues that I was able to reproduce.

                                As you said, tooboard build in accelerometer now works with SBC
                                I tried x and y axis - so now I'm going to take on IS 😉

                                G1 X-50 G4 S2 M956 P121.0 S1000 A0 G4 P10 G1 X50 F20000
                                

                                Przechwytywanie.JPG

                                G1 y-50 G4 S2 M956 P121.0 S1000 A0 G4 P10 G1 y50 F20000
                                

                                Przechwytywanie.JPG

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators @CadetC
                                  last edited by dc42

                                  @cadetc currently I favour doing a sharp move and collecting data after it has completed. This removes motor and belt noise from the accelerometer output, making it easier to see what is going on. Here is a sample command for the X axis, for a machine set up with X0 Y0 being bed centre:

                                  G1 X-100 F3000 G4 S1 G1 X0 F20000 M400 M956 Pxxx A0 S1000

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                                  • skrotzundefined
                                    skrotz @dc42
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                                    @dc42 with PA enabled the "clunking" noise has returned, usually when printing the infill portion. Disabling PA stopped the clunking, and oddly produced a small layer shift in the X direction and an even smaller one in Y. Definitely some strange extrusion or positioning errors on the part of the print with PA on. With PA off things seemed like previous builds, with some extrusion bubbles or zits in the exact same places as before (these don't happen in 3.3 with PA off). M122 reported some hiccups and errors:

                                    === Move ===
                                    DMs created 83, segments created 35, maxWait 50682ms, bed compensation in use: mesh, comp offset 0.000
                                    === MainDDARing ===
                                    Scheduled moves 11545, completed moves 11545, hiccups 1028, stepErrors 5, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
                                    === AuxDDARing ===
                                    Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1

                                    This was all the same config and gcode as uploaded before. If helpful I could get a debug log later of the stepper errors.

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                                    • botundefined
                                      bot @skrotz
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                                      @skrotz which slicer are you using?

                                      Could be gcode related.

                                      E.g., stock prusaslicer is horrible at producing accurate gcode for very short movements. This pops up a lot in parts of infill.

                                      *not actually a robot

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                                      • dc42undefined
                                        dc42 administrators @skrotz
                                        last edited by dc42

                                        @skrotz are you certain that the clunking doesn't happen using RRF 3.3 with the same gcode?

                                        Edit: I just spotted that you had some step errors - odd that I didn't. I'll check the configuration and run your print again.

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                                        • dc42undefined
                                          dc42 administrators
                                          last edited by dc42

                                          @skrotz I have now reproduced those step errors. I don't think it will be difficult for me to find the cause because they all show the same particular pattern.

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                                          • Adrian52undefined
                                            Adrian52 @dc42
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                                            @dc42 I got the clunking and step errors too, on 20mm cal cube.

                                            DMs created 83, segments created 48, maxWait 516025ms, bed compensation in use: mesh, comp offset 0.000
                                            === MainDDARing ===
                                            Scheduled moves 18073, completed moves 18073, hiccups 6217, stepErrors 102, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
                                            === AuxDDARing ===
                                            Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
                                            

                                            Also layer shift mainly in the X direction. Havent tried w/o pa yet

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