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    [3.4.0b6 - 3.4.0b7+7] G02 / G03 Errant Movement and Extrusion

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    • sebkritikelundefined
      sebkritikel
      last edited by sebkritikel

      Similar effects seen here by @zylantha, although reportedly upgrading to 3.4.0b6 solved the issue for them.
      https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/26000/g02-g03-arc-issues
      Duet2 Wifi +Duex5, 3.4.0beta7+7. IDEX, so X motion is from a single stepper, Y is from a single stepper, etc.
      Config.g

      ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi
      ; executed by the firmware on start-up
      ;
      
      ; General preferences
      G90                                         ; Send absolute coordinates...
      M83                                         ; ...but relative extruder moves
      
      ; Network
      M550 P"test printer1"                       ; Set machine name
      M552 S1                                     ; Enable network
      ;*** Access point is configured manually via M587
      M586 P0 S1                                  ; Enable HTTP
      M586 P1 S0                                  ; Disable FTP
      M586 P2 S0                                  ; Disable Telnet
      
      ; Type
      M669 K0
      
      
      ; Drives
      M584 X0 Y1 Z2 U5 E3:4 			    ; create the U axis and assign stepper driver 5 to it (duex E2)
      M569 P0 S1                                  ; Physical drive 0 goes forwards X
      M569 P1 S1                                  ; Physical drive 1 goes forwards Y
      M569 P2 S0                                  ; Physical drive 2 goes backwards Z
      M569 P5 S0                                  ; Physical drive 5 goes Backwards U
      M569 P3 S0                                  ; Physical drive 3 goes backwards E0
      M569 P4 S1                                 ; Physical drive x goes forwards E1
      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 U16 E16:16 I1                     ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
      M92 X100.00 Y96.00 Z1280.00 U100.00 E415.00:415.00         ; Set steps per mm
      M566 X100.00 Y100.00 Z500.00 U100.00 E36000.00:36000.00         ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min) - the extruder jerk settings are a mistake... but I also have not seen any downsides to them.
      M566 P1
      M203 X18000.00 Y18000.00 Z1320.00 U18000.00 E3000.00:3000.00     ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min
      M201 X4000.00 Y4000.00 Z450.00 U4000.00 E3000.00:3000.00         ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
      M906 X1800.00 Y2400.00 Z2400.00 U1800.00 E1960.00:1960.00 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
      M84 S30                                     ; Set idle timeout
      
      ; Axis Limits
      M208 X-260 Y-237.5 Z-4.65 U-150 S1                            ; Set axis minima
      M208 X156 Y237.5 Z210.35 U267 S0                      ; Set axis maxima
      
      ; Endstops
      M574 X1 S1 P"xstop"
      M574 Y2 S1 P"ystop"
      M574 U2 S1 P"e0stop"
      
      ; Z-Probe
      M574 Z1 S2				;probe
      M558 P9 C"^zprobe.in" H5 F1000:200 A8 R0.75 T6000 S.02                   ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
      M950 S0 C"duex.pwm1"
      G31 P25 X36.5 Y16.26 Z1.50                       ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height 01/03/22
      M557 X-220:160 Y-200:200 S20:25            ; define mesh grid
      M376 H5				   
      
      ; Heaters
      M140 H0                                                             ;heated bed H0
      M308 S0 P"bed_temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3950 R4700            	; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
      M950 H0 C"bed_heat" T0 Q5                                          ;heater 0 uses the bed_heat pin, sensor 0
      M143 H0 S170                            							; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 170C
      M308 S1 P"e0_temp" Y"thermistor" T500000 B4723 C1.196220e-7         ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
      M950 H1 C"e0_heat" T1
      M143 H1 S450                                						; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 450C
      M308 S2 P"e1_temp" Y"thermistor" T500000 B4723 C1.196220e-7         ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 2
      M950 H2 C"e1_heat" T2
      M143 H2 S450                                ; Set temperature limit for heater 2 to 450C
      M308 S3 P"e2_temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.060000e-8 R4700 A"Chamber1"     ; Chamber
      M308 S4 P"e3_temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.060000e-8 R4700 A"Y-Stepper"    ; Y-Stepper
      
      ; Fans
      M950 F3 C"duex.fan3"
      M950 F4 C"duex.fan4"
      M950 F5 C"fan0"
      M950 F6 C"duex.fan5"
      
      M106 P3 S255			    ;12v E0 fan always on
      M106 P4 S255				    ;12v E1 fan always on
      M106 P5 S128 H3 T68			    ;24v fan thermostat - chamber
      
      ; Tools
      
      M563 P0 D0 H1 F6                               ; Define tool 0, extruder 0, heater 1, fan 6
      G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                             ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
      G10 P0 R0 S0                                ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
      
      M563 P1 D1 H2 X3                            ; Define tool 1, extruder 1, heater 2, maps X to U
      G10 P1 X0 Y.0 U0 Z.2							; Set tool 1 axis offsets
      G10 P1 R0 S0                                ; Set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C
      
      M563 P2 D0:1 H1:2 X0:3 F6						; tool 2 uses both extruders and hot end heaters, maps X to both X and U, both fans
      G10 P2 X0 Y0 U-263.5 S0 R0    				; set tool offsets and temperatures for tool 2
      M567 P2 E1:1 ; set mix ratio 100% on both extruders
      
      ;Other
      M593 p"mzv" F23.85
      M572 D0 S0.07					; set extruder 0 pressure advance to 0.07 seconds
      M572 D1 S0.02					; set extruder 1 pressure advance to 0.02 seconds
      M575 P1 S1 B57600				;paneldue
      
      M955 P0 I52 C"spi.cs3+spi.cs4" ; T0 accelerometer 
      
      ; Automatic saving after power loss is not enabled
      
      ; Custom settings are not configured
      M501
      
      

      Currently on 3.4.0beta7+7 (2022-01-14), but this specific print exhibited the same issues on 3.4.0b6. I have not previously seen this on my prints when using G02/G03.

      There are two issues.

      1. The 'tab' located tangent to the fillet running up the print in this section.
      2. The tiny, machine-directed oscillations when printing a certain section of the first layer inner and outer walls.

      A surely correlated issue is Arcwelder is turning some straight segments into G02/G03 curves - seen further down in the Craftware image. While I'm not saying there aren't print quality/accuracy issues resulting from this, the processed G02/G03 segments are perfectly reasonable - I see no reason why this extra movement and extrusion is occurring.

      Issue 1:
      a7ecd520-7491-4b25-ad27-58419a945d62-image.png

      Quick image from Craftware (does not properly display G02/G03, but this should help show that these specific G03 segments are occurring up to layer 47, and then stopping)
      0251aac9-9927-4117-980f-5fb12b4919bc-image.png

      Sample from NC Viewer - properly displays the G02/G03 segments (in blue vs yellow)
      5c220cc2-7dfd-4b81-96d7-4f72c2749d04-image.png

      Essentially the print head is moving left - to right. When it reaches the theoretical junction between the flat and the fillet, the print head continues moving to the right (red arrows), then moves directly back (opposite direction red arrow), and then continues on the proper path (blue curve)
      85934f30-2d7b-4570-a05d-64ecef1a4979-image.png

      Video in action: https://youtu.be/9ubaPqV4fgM?t=16 specifically observe 0:20 - 0:21, as that is when the back and forth motion occurs.
      Second video: https://youtu.be/kwp4qZYJqNE?t=9 - observe 0:10 - 0:11

      Second issue:
      It seems at certain speeds, this area of G03 curves displays some super cool oscillations. Video taken while in print, at F900
      https://youtu.be/BHhxILOG4-k

      Bad section in red.
      28436e12-52f7-4073-a85f-2fde1a43e8ca-image.png

      Copying those lines into a macro, and running it at F1500 - a little more extreme. A G1 move in that direction and feed does not have any oscillation, and with the G03 command and a higher feed (F2700) the issue disappears. Disabling input shaping has no positive effect.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QAZbSkS80s

      Gcode file:
      https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lFCP3wLp_RGa2EG9O3XYhTDd1qRgQHJ9/view?usp=sharing

      Relevant sections of trouble for issue 1 and 2 respectively - feel free to paste these into NC Viewer for a quick check.

      G2 X-120.253 Y13.572 I-4.141 J2.453 E0.08242 F1350
      G2 X-122.654 Y12.626 I-2.971 J4.021 E0.11094
      G1 X-123.13 Y12.595 E0.02029
      G1 X-172.429 Y12.594 E2.09676
      G1 X-172.649 Y12.594 E0.00936
      G1 X-172.649 Y12.814 E0.00234
      G1 X-172.649 Y34.819 E0.9359
      G1 X-176.972 Y34.819 E0.18386
      G1 X-176.972 Y8.492 E1.11972
      G1 X-176.972 Y8.272 E0.00936
      G3 X-122.978 Y8.274 I0.110 J725868.340 E2.28942
      G3 X-118.776 Y9.400 I-0.239 J9.297 E0.18670
      G3 X-115.460 Y12.438 I-4.436 J8.170 E0.19315
      G3 X-113.983 Y16.438 I-7.732 J5.128 E0.18295
      G1 X-113.926 Y17.085 E0.02762
      G3 X-113.912 Y76.456 I-125423.351 J59.261 E2.52513
      G1 X-114.132 Y76.456 E0.00234
      G1 X-118.234 Y76.456 E0.17446
      G1 X-118.234 Y17.769 E2.49604
      G2 X-118.797 Y15.276 I-5.037 J-0.173 E0.10982
      G1 X-118.96 Y14.999 E0.01367
      
      ;COPIED GCODE, MODIFIED INTO A MACRO FILE
      G1 F1200 Z5 ;FOR SAFETY
      G2 X-120.627 Y12.812 I-4.540 J2.858 F900 ;TRY CHANGING THIS VALUE TO SEE IF THE ISSUE IS BETTER/WORSE
      G2 X-123.116 Y12.155 I-2.590 J4.768
      G1 X-172.87 Y12.154
      G1 X-173.089 Y12.154
      G1 X-173.089 Y12.373
      G1 X-173.089 Y34.379
      G1 X-176.532 Y34.379
      G1 X-176.532 Y8.931 ;E1.00658
      G1 X-176.532 Y8.712 ;E0.00866
      G3 X-122.991 Y8.714 I0.110 J713728.301 ;E2.11127 ;PROBLEMS START  HERE
      G3 X-118.986 Y9.787 I-0.226 J8.854 ;E0.16550
      G3 X-115.780 Y12.753 I-4.230 J7.788 ;E0.17450
      G3 X-114.394 Y16.721 I-7.472 J4.836 ;E0.16779
      G1 X-114.356 Y17.341 ;E0.02457
      G3 X-114.352 Y76.016 I-428738.224 J58.566 ;E2.32084
      G1 X-114.571 Y76.016 ;E0.00216
      G1 X-117.794 Y76.016 ;E0.12748
      G1 X-117.794 Y17.636 ;E2.30917
      G2 X-118.405 Y15.075 I-5.423 J-0.060 ;E0.10513
      G1 X-118.643 Y14.671 ;E0.01855
      G0 F18000 X-118.96 Y14.999
      ;TYPE:WALL-OUTER
      G2 X-120.253 Y13.572 I-4.141 J2.453 F900
      G2 X-122.654 Y12.626 I-2.971 J4.021 ;E0.10317
      G1 X-123.13 Y12.595 ;E0.01887
      G1 X-172.429 Y12.594 ;E1.94998
      G1 X-172.649 Y12.594 ;E0.0087
      G1 X-172.649 Y12.814 ;E0.00218
      G1 X-172.649 Y34.819 ;E0.87039
      G1 X-176.972 Y34.819 ;E0.17099
      G1 X-176.972 Y8.492 ;E1.04134
      G1 X-176.972 Y8.272 ;E0.0087
      G3 X-122.977 Y8.274 I0.110 J725895.282 ;E2.12921 ;PROBLEMS HERE
      G3 X-118.775 Y9.400 I-0.239 J9.297 ;E0.17363
      G3 X-115.412 Y12.511 I-4.444 J8.177 ;E0.18305
      G3 X-113.956 Y16.683 I-7.825 J5.071 ;E0.17643
      G1 X-113.916 Y17.33 ;E0.02564
      G3 X-113.912 Y76.456 I-435359.518 J59.016 ;E2.33868
      G1 X-114.132 Y76.456 ;E0.00218
      G1 X-118.234 Y76.456 ;E0.16225
      G1 X-118.234 Y17.646 ;E2.32618
      G2 X-118.797 Y15.276 I-4.993 J-0.066 ;E0.09727
      G1 X-118.96 Y14.999 ;E0.01271
      G0 F18000 X-118.543 Y14.755
      G1 F2100 ;E-0.75
      

      Large(ish?) IDEX - 6HC, 1HCL
      Stratasys Dimension 1200es to 6HC Conversion

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      • sebkritikelundefined
        sebkritikel @sebkritikel
        last edited by

        A macro as short as this is an easy way to induce issue #1

        G1 X-176.972 Y8.272 ;Start Position
        G3 X-122.978 Y8.274 I0.110 J725868.340
        G3 X-118.776 Y9.400 I-0.239 J9.297
        G4 S3 ;Pause
        G1 X-176.972 Y8.272 ;Return to Start
        

        Large(ish?) IDEX - 6HC, 1HCL
        Stratasys Dimension 1200es to 6HC Conversion

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        • sebkritikelundefined
          sebkritikel @sebkritikel
          last edited by

          @dc42 Is there a better way of logging with M111 to assist with your troubleshooting efforts?

          m111.txt

          Attached is a YAT terminal log with debugging on for MOVE and DAA. I've copied lines that only detail 'transformed' further below- was attempting to log the following macro, which contains only two move commands. Important - look at forum lines 209 through 217, it appears that in this specific macro we're moving beyond the endpoint by 1.75mm! Reflected in chart below.

          57c4b9fc-49c6-455a-a34b-68bdccb7bcd6-image.png

          G1 X-176.972 Y8.272
          G3 X-122.978 Y8.274 I0.110 J725868.340
          

          Debug log -

          Line 3: Transformed -176.97 8.27 100.00 267.00 to -17697 794 128000 26700
          Line 5: Transformed -176.72 8.25 100.00 267.00 to -17672 792 128000 26700
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          Line 33: Transformed -169.46 8.25 100.00 267.00 to -16946 792 128000 26700
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          Line 119: Transformed -166.63 8.25 100.00 267.00 to -16663 792 128000 26700
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          Large(ish?) IDEX - 6HC, 1HCL
          Stratasys Dimension 1200es to 6HC Conversion

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          • sebkritikelundefined
            sebkritikel
            last edited by sebkritikel

            @dc42 Any insight? This chart and attached M111 log show the commanded X position oscillates during this G03 movement.

            c85fb134-f555-4c0e-9573-9160e678f8b8-image.png

            G1 X-176.532 Y8.712 F1500;E0.00866
            G3 X-122.991 Y8.714 I0.110 J713728.301 ;E2.11127 ;PROBLEMS START  HERE
            G4 S4
            G1 X-176.532 Y8.712 ;E0.00866
            

            M111 new.txt

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QAZbSkS80s

            Large(ish?) IDEX - 6HC, 1HCL
            Stratasys Dimension 1200es to 6HC Conversion

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            • alankilianundefined
              alankilian @sebkritikel
              last edited by alankilian

              @sebkritikel

              I looked at the code and everything is treated as IEEE single-precision floatingpoint numbers, so I wonder if your extremely large J value is getting improperly represented and is causing, well, something.

              Here's a converter

              Your value of 713728.301 can only be represented as 713728.3125 which is off by 0.0115 I know that's a small amount, but I don't really know how it would affect the generation of the curve (the one that is basically a straight line)

              Is there something in your post-processor that says "Hey, if the radius is greater than ZZZ, just use a G1 move instead of creating a G2 with a huge radius please." ?

              I mean, J725868mm is nearly a half a mile away. To mix units. 🙂

              Maybe you could try using exactly 713728.3125 as a test, or keep reducing that radius until the jumps start to go away? (If my theory is correct anyway)

              Interesting problem.

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              • sebkritikelundefined
                sebkritikel @alankilian
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                @alankilian I like the way you're thinking! Unfortunately I'm still seeing Issue #1 and Issue #2 with the 713728.3125 value (more on both #1 and #2 in a moment).

                There is an option in the post-processor to limit the maximum arc radius. Currently it is set to... 1000000mm 😊

                It should have been obvious to anyone reading, but issue #1 and #2 are just different side effects of the same issue. #1 occurs with the 'troublesome' command at higher speeds, with #2 occurring at low speeds. At higher speeds we see the overshoot, and at lower speeds, we see the single-axis oscillation.

                Post-processor wise, limiting the maximum arc radius to a reasonable value seems like a solid idea. For my own curiosity, I want to collect more data on these large radius moves.

                Large(ish?) IDEX - 6HC, 1HCL
                Stratasys Dimension 1200es to 6HC Conversion

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