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    • tecnoundefined
      tecno @gloomyandy
      last edited by

      @gloomyandy

      What lines to change?

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      • gloomyandyundefined
        gloomyandy @tecno
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        @tecno As I asked above, have you ever had your motors/drivers working with your current control board at all?

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          • tecnoundefined
            tecno @gloomyandy
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            @gloomyandy

            Mini5 eth + 3pcs 1XD to DM556, so not with that configuration.

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            • tecnoundefined
              tecno @A Former User
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              @arnold_r_clark

              Can be done but the motors need high current so the Mini is not up to the task

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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators @tecno
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                @tecno said in The tower motors ..... H E L P:

                @dc42
                Missed G91

                But still no movement

                It could mean that the enable polarity is wrong. Some questions:

                • How did you wire the external drivers to the 1XD boards?
                • Before you power up the drivers and the Duet, do the tower carriages move freely?
                • After you power up and before you send any commands, do the carriages move freely or are they locked?
                • After you command a motor using a G91 G1 H2 command, does the carriage move freely or is it locked?

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                • tecnoundefined
                  tecno @dc42
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                  @dc42
                  https://docs.duet3d.com/duet_boards/duet_3_can_expansion/duet_3_1xd_v1.0_wiring_03.png

                  Yes
                  Same as above
                  Same as above

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                  • tecnoundefined
                    tecno @tecno
                    last edited by

                    44e55688-0ab8-4707-be4a-d4d82f721da5-image.png

                    My motors are the last listed -2804

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators @tecno
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                      @tecno said in The tower motors ..... H E L P:

                      @dc42
                      https://docs.duet3d.com/duet_boards/duet_3_can_expansion/duet_3_1xd_v1.0_wiring_03.png

                      Yes
                      Same as above
                      Same as above

                      Thanks. Your wiring link suggests that you have connected the Enable inputs of the drivers to the 1XD boards. So if you have set the Enable polarity correctly, the carriages should move freely before you command them to move, and after that (or when you use M17) they should lock. The fact that they are not locking suggests one of the following:

                      • Power is not being supplied to your external drivers
                      • Motor is not connected correctly to external driver
                      • Configuration of external driver incorrect
                      • Configuration of RRF is incorrect, so that it is not commanding the 1XD boards to move the motors

                      Please run the following command and report any error messages that you see:

                      M98 P"config.g"

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                      • tecnoundefined
                        tecno @dc42
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                        @dc42

                        36V
                        Connected as per docs
                        ?
                        2022-06-03 18:54:47 M98 P"config.g"
                        HTTP is enabled on port 80
                        FTP is enabled on port 21
                        TELNET is enabled on port 23
                        Error: Setting not available for external drivers
                        Setting not available for external drivers
                        Setting not available for external drivers

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                        • tecnoundefined
                          tecno @tecno
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                          ; Configuration file for Duet 3 Mini 5+ (firmware version 3.3)
                          ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                          ;
                          ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.3.10 on Tue May 31 2022 17:03:35 GMT+0200 (centraleuropeisk sommartid)

                          ; General preferences
                          M575 P1 S0 B57600 ; enable support for PanelDue
                          G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
                          M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                          M550 P"BigDelta" ; set printer name
                          M665 R300 L615 B275 H570 ; Set delta radius, diagonal rod length, printable radius and homed height
                          M666 X0 Y0 Z0 ; put your endstop adjustments here, or let auto calibration find them
                          M669 S1 T1 ; kinematics linear delta
                          M564 H0 S0 ; allow axis movement not homed

                          ; Wait a moment for the CAN expansion boards to start
                          G4 S2

                          ; Network
                          M551 P"bengt" ; set password
                          M552 P192.168.1.124 S1 ; enable network and acquire dynamic address via DHCP
                          M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
                          M586 P1 S1 ; enable FTP
                          M586 P2 S1 ; enable Telnet

                          ; Drives
                          M569 P40.0 S1 R1 T10:10:10:10 ; physical drive 121.0 goes forwards
                          M569 P41.0 S1 R1 T10:10:10:10 ; physical drive 122.0 goes forwards
                          M569 P42.0 S1 R1 T10:10:10:10 ; physical drive 123.0 goes forwards
                          M569 P0.0 S1 ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
                          M584 X40.0 Y41.0 Z42.0 E0.0 ; set drive mapping
                          M350 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation X16 Y16 Z16
                          M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z80.00 E663.00 ; set steps per mm
                          M566 X1200.00 Y1200.00 Z1200.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                          M203 X18000.00 Y18000.00 Z18000.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                          M201 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z1000.00 E1000.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                          M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                          M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                          ; Axis Limits
                          M208 Z0 S1 ; set minimum Z

                          ; Endstops
                          M574 X2 S1 P"40.io1.in" ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on X via pin io0.in
                          M574 Y2 S1 P"41.io1.in" ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on Y via pin io1.in
                          M574 Z2 S1 P"42.io1.in" ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on Z via pin io2.in

                          ; Z-Probe
                          M558 P5 R0.4 C"io3.in+io4.out" H5 F1200 T6000 ; set Z probe type to effector and the dive height + speeds
                          G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z2.5 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                          M557 R85 S20 ; define mesh grid

                          ; Heaters
                          M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
                          M950 H0 C"out0" T0 ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
                          M307 H0 B1 S1.00 ; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                          M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
                          M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                          M308 S1 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin temp1
                          M950 H1 C"out1" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 1
                          M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
                          M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

                          ; Fans
                          M950 F0 C"out5" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin out3 and set its frequency
                          M106 P0 S0 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                          M950 F1 C"out4" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin out4 and set its frequency
                          M106 P1 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on

                          ; Tools
                          M563 P1 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 1
                          G10 P1 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 1 axis offsets
                          G10 P1 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                          ; Custom settings are not defined

                          ; Miscellaneous
                          ;M501 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory

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                          • tecnoundefined
                            tecno @tecno
                            last edited by

                            Have been trying to search the forum what this Setting not available for external drivers is caused but cannot not find anything.

                            M98 P"config.g"
                            HTTP is enabled on port 80
                            FTP is enabled on port 21
                            TELNET is enabled on port 23
                            Error: Setting not available for external drivers
                            Setting not available for external drivers
                            Setting not available for external drivers

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                            • gloomyandyundefined
                              gloomyandy @tecno
                              last edited by

                              @tecno Have you tried removing X, Y and Z from your M906 command, you can't set the current for external drivers.

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                              • tecnoundefined
                                tecno @gloomyandy
                                last edited by

                                @gloomyandy

                                Now I did that = still no movement. Error in M98 gone
                                M98 P"config.g"
                                HTTP is enabled on port 80
                                FTP is enabled on port 21
                                TELNET is enabled on port 23

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                                • tecnoundefined
                                  tecno @tecno
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                                  Drivers are set to 1/16step and 3.2A

                                  M569 P40.0 S0 R1 T10:10:10:10
                                  M569 P41.0 S0 R1 T10:10:10:10
                                  M569 P42.0 S0 R1 T10:10:10:10

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                                  • tecnoundefined
                                    tecno @tecno
                                    last edited by

                                    With my DMM I can measure DIR shifting 4.78V to 0 and see a small shift in Step of 0.048V and EN is 4.78V

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                                    • tecnoundefined
                                      tecno @tecno
                                      last edited by

                                      Even tried to shift driver to DM542A No movement on Y axis

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                                      • tecnoundefined
                                        tecno @tecno
                                        last edited by

                                        Now all axis are connected to Mini5, only E0 is moving.

                                        ; Drives
                                        ;M569 P40.0 S0 R1  T10:10:10:10                ; physical drive 121.0 goes forwards
                                        ;M569 P41.0 S0 R1  T10:10:10:10                ; physical drive 122.0 goes forwards
                                        ;M569 P42.0 S0 R1  T10:10:10:10                ; physical drive 123.0 goes forwards
                                        M569 P0.0 S0
                                        M569 P1.0 S0
                                        M569 P2.0 S0
                                        M569 P3.0 S0                                 ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
                                        M584 X3.0 Y2.0 Z1.0 E0.0
                                        ;M584 X40.0 Y41.0 Z42.0 E0.0                   ; set drive mapping
                                        M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1                       			  ; configure microstepping with interpolation   X16 Y16 Z16
                                        M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z80.00 E663.00              ; set steps per mm
                                        M566 X1200.00 Y1200.00 Z1200.00 E1200.00      ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                        M203 X18000.00 Y18000.00 Z18000.00 E1200.00   ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                        M201 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z1000.00 E1000.00      ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                        M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E800 I30               ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                        M84 S30                                       ; Set idle timeout
                                        

                                        What is wrong?

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                                        • Phaedruxundefined
                                          Phaedrux Moderator @tecno
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                                          @tecno said in The tower motors ..... H E L P:

                                          M569 P0.0 S0
                                          M569 P1.0 S0
                                          M569 P2.0 S0
                                          M569 P3.0 S0 ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
                                          M584 X3.0 Y2.0 Z1.0 E0.0

                                          You've got the numbers backwards I think.

                                          The first digit is the board address, the second is the driver number.

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                                          • tecnoundefined
                                            tecno @Phaedrux
                                            last edited by

                                            @phaedrux

                                            Did look at my CHIRON setup with Mini5

                                            M569 P0 S0
                                            M569 P1 S0
                                            M569 P2 S0
                                            M569 P3 S0                                 ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
                                            M584 X3 Y2 Z1 E0
                                            ;M584 X40.0 Y41.0 Z42.0 E0.0                   ; set drive mapping
                                            M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1                       			  ; configure microstepping with interpolation   X16 Y16 Z16
                                            M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z80.00 E663.00              ; set steps per mm
                                            M566 X1200.00 Y1200.00 Z1200.00 E1200.00      ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                            M203 X18000.00 Y18000.00 Z18000.00 E1200.00   ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                            M201 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z1000.00 E1000.00      ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                            M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E800 I30               ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                            M84 S30
                                            
                                            

                                            Just need to fix speed + acc

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