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    • vapvapundefined
      vapvap
      last edited by vapvap

      When I printing a calibration cube (ABS filament), its angles are strongly "twisted".
      Please, tell me how to deal with this?

      (The printer is "Anycubic Linear Plus" (Delta)(Duet WiFi)).

      ABS filament

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      • dc42undefined
        dc42 administrators
        last edited by

        I don't often print with ABS, but my guess is that you are printing the corners too fast or at too high a temperature.

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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        • vapvapundefined
          vapvap @dc42
          last edited by

          @dc42 Unfortunately no. It is printed slowly (more than 20 min.), The temperature is calibrated too.
          I do not even know now where to start to fix this ...?

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          • OBELIKSundefined
            OBELIKS @vapvap
            last edited by

            @vapvap Post your config.g, then people will be able to help you

            P3Steel Toolson mk2 - Duet 2 WiFi --> RatRig V-Core with Duet WiFi 1.03
            Original Prusa i3 MK3S

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators @vapvap
              last edited by

              @vapvap said in Calibration cube corners.:

              @dc42 Unfortunately no. It is printed slowly (more than 20 min.), The temperature is calibrated too.
              I do not even know now where to start to fix this ...?

              Have you tried reducing the extrusion temperature by 5C ?

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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              • RCarlyleundefined
                RCarlyle
                last edited by

                In addition to temperature suggestions, I would look for carriage backlash or loose arm joints. (Start grabbing parts and wiggling them to feel for play.) At least one delta column will be changing direction at a 90 degree turn like this.

                On the temperature standpoint, either add a little bit of fan airflow or print a much larger object (like 80mm box) to give the fresh material more time to cool before the next nozzle pass.

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                • vapvapundefined
                  vapvap @RCarlyle
                  last edited by

                  @rcarlyle Once again, I checked everything, there are no backlashes (roads on magnets).
                  P.S. earlier (without my "Smart Effector" + "Duet WiFi") on this delta, I printed much smaller things.

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                  • vapvapundefined
                    vapvap @dc42
                    last edited by vapvap

                    @dc42 Cube "-5°C".
                    0_1534896759857_IMG_20180822_011020.jpg

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                    • vapvapundefined
                      vapvap @OBELIKS
                      last edited by

                      @obeliks My "config.g":

                      ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 1.21)
                      ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                      ;
                      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Mon Aug 06 2018 00:13:45 GMT+0100 (IST)

                      ; General preferences
                      G90 ; Send absolute coordinates...
                      M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                      M555 P1 ; Set firmware compatibility to look like RepRapFirmare

                      ;*** The homed height is deliberately set too high in the following - you will adjust it during calibration.
                      M665 R105.6 L267 B90 H212 ; Set delta radius, diagonal rod length, printable radius and homed height
                      M666 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Put your endstop adjustments here, or let auto calibration find them

                      ; Network
                      M550 PMy printer ; Set machine name
                      M552 S1 ; Enable network
                      ;*** Access point is configured manually via M587
                      M586 P0 S1 ; Enable HTTP
                      M586 P1 S0 ; Disable FTP
                      M586 P2 S0 ; Disable Telnet

                      ; Drives
                      M569 P0 S0 ; Drive 0 goes forwards
                      M569 P1 S0 ; Drive 1 goes forwards
                      M569 P2 S0 ; Drive 2 goes forwards
                      M569 P3 S1 ; Drive 3 goes forwards
                      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
                      M92 X80 Y80 Z80 E407 ; Set steps per mm
                      M566 X1200 Y1200 Z1000 E1000 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                      M203 X12000 Y12000 Z12000 E1200 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                      M201 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E1000 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                      M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E800 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                      M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                      ; Axis Limits
                      M208 Z0 S1 ; Set minimum Z

                      ; Endstops
                      M574 X2 Y2 Z2 S1 ; Set active high endstops

                      ; Z-Probe
                      M558 P5 R0.4 H5 F1200 T6000 ; Set Z probe type to effector and the dive height + speeds
                      G31 P100 X0 Y0 Z-0.1 ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                      M557 R90 S20 ; Define mesh grid

                      ; Heaters
                      M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; Disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                      M305 P0 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                      M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                      M305 P1 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                      M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

                      ; Fans
                      M106 P0 S0.3 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                      M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
                      M106 P2 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; Set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on

                      ; Tools
                      M563 P1 D0 H1 ; Define tool 1
                      G10 P1 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 1 axis offsets
                      G10 P1 R0 S0 ; Set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                      ; Automatic saving after power loss is not enabled

                      ; Custom settings are not configured

                      ; Miscellaneous
                      T1 ; Select first tool
                      M501 ; new commands override the ones earlier in your config.g

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                      • RCarlyleundefined
                        RCarlyle
                        last edited by

                        Can you take a photo from the side of the print? Still looks like a mechanical issue to me, but need to see more angles I think.

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                        • vapvapundefined
                          vapvap @RCarlyle
                          last edited by

                          @rcarlyle 0_1534896391965_IMG_20180822_010311.jpg

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                          • RCarlyleundefined
                            RCarlyle
                            last edited by

                            Side like looking at the perimeters, not top, thanks

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                            • Johhnyalterundefined
                              Johhnyalter
                              last edited by Johhnyalter

                              I’m nearing my wit’s end (usually not a long journey), and would really appreciate some help. I print with a FlashForge Creator Pro, using a glass planers for a bed, and ABS juice for adhesion. I’ve been having problems with some prints. I’ve been through the print quality guides on duet3d but haven’t yet found the magic formula. I’m printing a simple 10X20X20mm cube that exhibits the issues I’m having. The .STL came with the printer. I print with Hatchbox filament.

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                              • vapvapundefined
                                vapvap @RCarlyle
                                last edited by vapvap

                                @rcarlyle
                                0_1534963876388_IMG_20180822_194904.jpg

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                                • RCarlyleundefined
                                  RCarlyle
                                  last edited by

                                  @vapvap Noooooooo 😞 you're going in the wrong direction! like this:

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                                  • vapvapundefined
                                    vapvap @RCarlyle
                                    last edited by

                                    @rcarlyle Sorry, fixed. 🙂

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                                    • dc42undefined
                                      dc42 administrators @Johhnyalter
                                      last edited by dc42

                                      @johhnyalter, the cube printed 5C lower appears to me to have better corners. Can you confirm that? If so then it confirms my view that excessive speed and/or temperature is the problem. So I suggest you reduce temperature, or add a little fan cooling, or reduce XY acceleration and/or jerk.

                                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                      • RCarlyleundefined
                                        RCarlyle
                                        last edited by

                                        The fact that the base starts at the correct shape and then it deforms increasing amounts near the heatbed, then gets a little better as it gets higher... that really suggests that it's an issue with the plastic not cooling fast enough. Proximity to the heatbed = more heat. Small print = not much time for heat to conduct away from the top layer. Corners = slower nozzle motion for more heat radiation into the print.

                                        Do you have an insulated hot block?
                                        Do you have ANY kind of airflow, even gentle airflow, in the printer? I find ABS quality benefits enormously from very gentle airflow.
                                        What happens when you print something 4x bigger (ie more time for plastic to cool before the nozzle approaches again)?

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                                        • RCarlyleundefined
                                          RCarlyle
                                          last edited by

                                          It IS kind of unusual geometry for a corner overheating/undercooling issue, though. Would really like to see video of the box printing.

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                                          • Redemptionerundefined
                                            Redemptioner
                                            last edited by

                                            ABS suffers from slow printing, too much heat is transferred and you end up sagging the layers under the layer you are printing, try bringing the speed up to 50mm/sec. A small amount of air flow will sharpen up the edges but will also make the part super brittle unless you can keep the air temp above 60*C.

                                            You also are clearly over extruding which will be exacerbate the layer issues

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