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    • botundefined
      bot
      last edited by bot

      This is the exact correct tool to use for one of the pins specified in documentation according to the manufacturer.

      With crimp pin terminals, there will usually be one specific tool that is meant to be used with the pins. In most cases, actually, the hand-held tools are only meant for repair and prototyping and the "real authorized" tool is a huge pneumatic machine.

      In any event, you can often use a generalized crimp tool labeled to crimp D-Sub terminals, or suitable replicas of such. Be sure to test the tool with each crimp/wire combo to ensure that you're reliably making the connection. You should be able to pull the crimp pin while holding the wire, and the wire should break. If the wire simply slips out of the crimp pin you have not made a secure connection. This test must be performed without crimping the secondary part onto the insulation -- only the conductor portion of the crimp should be used when performing the pull test.

      *not actually a robot

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      • A Former User?
        A Former User @bot
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        @bot

        Can you 100% say that it makes a £300 better job than the others that have been listed? Me no think so...

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        • botundefined
          bot @A Former User
          last edited by

          No, but the question was which tool is the exact correct tool, and the answer is the one I linked to.

          *not actually a robot

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          • A Former User?
            A Former User
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            LOL. Can't fault that

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            • gnydickundefined
              gnydick @bot
              last edited by gnydick

              @bot, holy crap, $400.

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              • Vetiundefined
                Veti
                last edited by

                yeah most of the molex tools are really expensive.

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                • A Former User?
                  A Former User
                  last edited by A Former User

                  All of the name brand tools are expensive, but you will do just fine with a $40 tool (I.e. the Engineer PA-09) and some practice, or even the $20 Chinese IWISS clone for that matter.

                  Half way down this page you'll see some illustrations showing you how to adjust your crimping for good results, after a while you'll get a pretty good feel for it, visual inspection is a good indicator and you could always try pulling on the wires and see if the wire breaks or if it slips out of the terminal till you get the hang of it.
                  http://www.pinrepair.com/connect/

                  Was hoping to find another link that had more of a poster format with more or less the same pictures, but, apparently not today.

                  Edit:
                  poster: http://www.te.com/content/dam/te-com/documents/application-tooling/global/65780-4_Crimp Quality Poster.pdf

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                  • gnydickundefined
                    gnydick @A Former User
                    last edited by

                    @bearer very cool

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                    • percarundefined
                      percar
                      last edited by

                      This crimper is a full cycle style printer and works very well
                      https://www.aliexpress.com/item/IWISS-Dupont-Pin-Crimping-Tool-2-54mm-3-96mm-28-18AWG-0-1-1-0mm2-Compression/32769475118.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dUm3Gtt

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                      • zaptaundefined
                        zapta
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                        I am getting very good results with this crimper https://www.amazon.com/s?k=B078WNZ9FW

                        It's handle is more comfortable and was able to get better crimps than with Engineer's PA-09/20/21.

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                        • gnydickundefined
                          gnydick @zapta
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                          @zapta I'll check it out!

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                          • zaptaundefined
                            zapta @gnydick
                            last edited by zapta

                            @gnydick, I am using the 1.3 slot for crimping the conductor and 1.9 slot for crimping the insulation.

                            Before you insert the two wings into a slot to crimp, use the tip of the tool to press the wings to become parallel.

                            One advantage over the Engineer is that when you crimp the conductors, at one point the two wings collapse at once which makes a satisfying click that indicates that you are done. With the Engineer the crimping was more gradual, the more you press the tighter it crimps. (this is my experience, YMMV)

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                            • gnydickundefined
                              gnydick @zapta
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                              @zapta thank you!

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                              • A Former User?
                                A Former User
                                last edited by

                                The gradual crimping by the Engineer tool is what makes it so much more flexible, it can give you a good crimp for almost any wire size with some practice.

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                                • cookieundefined
                                  cookie
                                  last edited by

                                  Hello,

                                  I’ve ordered this crimping tools, the set come with 11 head, for my JST needed: http://s.aliexpress.com/3eu6rY3E

                                  Is this kind of tool also works with Duet’s Molex kk or I’ve to get specific one?

                                  Thanks,
                                  Cookie

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                                  • dc42undefined
                                    dc42 administrators @cookie
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                                    @cookie said in Crimping tool?:

                                    Hello,

                                    I’ve ordered this crimping tools, the set come with 11 head, for my JST needed: http://s.aliexpress.com/3eu6rY3E

                                    Is this kind of tool also works with Duet’s Molex kk or I’ve to get specific one?

                                    That crimping tool looks very versatile if you get the multi-jaw kit, however the jaws for JST or Molex crimp terminals are the SN-2 which it says cover 13 to 23AWG. It's not uncommon to use 26AWG, and some devices are supplied with 28AWG wires.

                                    A popular ratchet crimping tool for Molex connectors is HT225D which is readily available in many countries. it will probably work on JST connectors too, but it doesn't do ferrules.

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                                    • A Former User?
                                      A Former User @cookie
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                                      @cookie said in Crimping tool?:

                                      Hello,

                                      I’ve ordered this crimping tools, the set come with 11 head, for my JST needed: http://s.aliexpress.com/3eu6rY3E

                                      Is this kind of tool also works with Duet’s Molex kk or I’ve to get specific one?

                                      Thanks,
                                      Cookie

                                      I have one of those, and while nice, I find it far too bulky to allow you to make decent crimps on smaller gauge wire you end up not being able to control the bulk and cant see what you are doing very well.

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                                      • cookieundefined
                                        cookie @dc42
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                                        @dc42 Thanks. Yes, seem like at least thermistor wires are smaller. Also, like Calvinx said .. the head seem to be too thick to work with small wires. Then, this set are for other jobs .. mostly.

                                        So, I’m going to order another one for small wires because this tool should last very long and worth buying, but HT-225D aren’t available in my region. There aren’t so many options with good reviews I could get. So, I’ve narrow down to these two:

                                        1.) Iwiss SN-01BM $21.5 (my region) got a very good review from buyers.

                                        2.) Iwiss 2820M $24 (my region), as suggested in comments above that could works.

                                        Any idea Which one seem to provide better result or easier (I’m quite new to wiring) ?

                                        Thanks, Cookie

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                                        • frank26080115undefined
                                          frank26080115
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                                          I use SN-01BM all the time. The die seems very nicely made, should last forever.

                                          I prefer the SN-01BM over the 2820M because it crimps both the conducting end and the insulation end in one go. I'm pretty good at using it, stripping the right amount and positioning the wire correctly, so it's not a problem not being able to see into it.

                                          Because it does everything in one single action, you can't squeeze too tight and destroy the entire crimp. That's another advantage of the SN-01BM over 2820M.

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                                          • gnydickundefined
                                            gnydick
                                            last edited by

                                            the main problem I was having with my iwiss set is that the jaws are so wide, I couldn't wrangle the little parts together because I couldn't see what I was doing. That kit with all of the interchangeable jaws looks like it'd have the same issue.

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